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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 24 2013 09:23 GMT
#1481
On May 24 2013 18:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Na is officialy the worst region in every global esport...

Loser's bracket.

In all honesty, I'd give them good odds against EU (going to bet on KR here), and CN are the heavy favorites to take the tourney entirely.

Where either EU/KR will be waiting for them. I don't see NA win that either.
There are alot of holes in NA teams and individuals as well. They are far behind CN. The composure of CN after losing like 8k in gold is insane.
They are in the similar situation with NA in game one but instead of losing really quick they hang on and come back. Thats alot of work there, NA isn't capable of doing any of that yet.
Terran
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33406 Posts
May 24 2013 09:23 GMT
#1482
wtf 5 casters for Korea -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
May 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#1483
Overall I think NA did a pretty damn good job considering the expectations. They kept up with the Chinese on their home territory. A few different calls and maybe they'd have won those matches. I'm sad, but at least they didn't get stomped like everyone said they would be.
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
May 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#1484
On May 24 2013 18:22 Seuss wrote:
I think the critical moment was shortly after they caught XiaoXiao near dragon. NA went top and pushed to the T2 turret, but despite knowing Crescendo was down and having a significant lead they backed down. That was their best opportunity to dive a tower and win a fight. Instead, they waited 10 minutes, fell into the baron trap, and then got murdered under a tower.


This. It was vayne and sona defending vs 5 for like 10 seconds. All they had to do was have malphite initiate on EITHER of them. I would've picked sona to get rid of crescendo. and take the tower. If China fought for it, they would've been obliterated. I just don't understand what they were doing.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#1485
On May 24 2013 18:21 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:20 Lylat wrote:
EU vs NA in loser bracket incoming, NA still has a chance


I think EU is certainly good enough to where EU vs. KR isn't a foregone conclusion.

Don't know why (because they're all good players) but I have this weird feeling that EU team will fail big time, even against NA.. I hope I'm wrong though!
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
May 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#1486
Well to be fair NA was supposed to win early game with that team comp. Too bad they really couldn't press the advantage before China's late game comp started to spin in motion.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
May 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#1487
On May 24 2013 18:23 Waxangel wrote:
wtf 5 casters for Korea -_-



Cloudtemplar #1 troll/best caster.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
May 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#1488
On May 24 2013 18:21 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:20 Lylat wrote:
EU vs NA in loser bracket incoming, NA still has a chance


I think EU is certainly good enough to where EU vs. KR isn't a foregone conclusion.


I'd say EU has a debatable advantage at the mid and jungle positions(especially because the jungler has 2 of his teammates on board unlike KR), ad has to go to korea and I would say the supports are pretty even with mayb a slight korea advantage, the top lane though korea is touted as having the best top laners in the world I really have no idea how Soaz stacks up.
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Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
May 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#1489
On May 24 2013 18:24 RJGooner wrote:
Overall I think NA did a pretty damn good job considering the expectations. They kept up with the Chinese on their home territory. A few different calls and maybe they'd have won those matches. I'm sad, but at least they didn't get stomped like everyone said they would be.

Agreed, the amount of pressure outside must be pretty hard. Normal LCS studio and the outcome could be diffrent in that game. Maybe
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#1490
KR lacking in experience? You must mean less time bootcamping I assume.

I wouldn't doubt EU's ability to pull off upset, but NA only has a chance of upsetting SEA at best.
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F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
May 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#1491
On May 24 2013 18:22 Mensol wrote:
so its time for Edward vs MadLife. Also i wonder how soaz will play against Shy.

Koreans always go 2v1, so dont expect dat.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#1492
NA had a really good timing mid game where they had massive burst to abuse the itemisation and power level on the Chinese team. Ryze was greedy with that RoA-Tear build but NA just sat around farming. They could have just walked up 5 man to a tower and threaten to execute anyone who dared come close. But they didn't.

The Baron was bad but at that point it was already slipping away. Baron just sealed the deal.
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#1493
On May 24 2013 18:21 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Na is officialy the worst region in every global esport...

Loser's bracket.

In all honesty, I'd give them good odds against EU (going to bet on KR here), and CN are the heavy favorites to take the tourney entirely.


Nah, korea are the heavy favorites. Doesn't matter if the china team is on there home turf I highly doubt they have more experience and skill then the korean team

Ehh its debatable, keep in mind that Korea has had the least practice time out of all the regions except maybe SEA
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#1494
On May 24 2013 18:24 divinesage wrote:
Well to be fair NA was supposed to win early game with that team comp. Too bad they really couldn't press the advantage before China's late game comp started to spin in motion.

Yep. But NA did show some very good play bot lane and esp DL with his godlike Urgot. The problems here is the bear got all the fuking kill. I mean a 7-0 bear is not that good while Dianna and Urgot got like nothing in kills.
If the gold was spread out better for NA the game might be difference. And ofc minus the tower dive.
Terran
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
May 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#1495
Are the games gonna start pretty much right away or are we gonna have to wait an hour?
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#1496
How was the baron bad?The baron was a good call.Their inability to time smite and abilities was the problem lol.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#1497
On May 24 2013 18:22 Navi wrote:
honestly any team can win any game here. none of the teams are solid enough that you can give them an A for stability and security and experience, and kr is especially lacking in the last category (whether they can make up for it in star power and talent, we'll see).

i wouldn't be surprised at a 2-1 eu win at this point. but anything goes


The problem here is that EU has mentioned that they have no had much practice time together. See this:

Q: There was some trouble getting sOAZ into the country. Will your lack of training have influence on your upcoming matches?

sOAZ: Of course, as we've missed four days of practice. It's worse for us and better for the other teams, but we'll talk more today and see what we can do against the Koreans.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 24 2013 09:28 GMT
#1498
On May 24 2013 18:25 Slangen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:24 RJGooner wrote:
Overall I think NA did a pretty damn good job considering the expectations. They kept up with the Chinese on their home territory. A few different calls and maybe they'd have won those matches. I'm sad, but at least they didn't get stomped like everyone said they would be.

Agreed, the amount of pressure outside must be pretty hard. Normal LCS studio and the outcome could be diffrent in that game. Maybe

I think they got too soft playing against the bottom 4 teams in LCS and their inability to close games. They figured they could do nothing and still pull it out even with mistakes. I'm sorry, but these other teams are actually trying to win. Not like they have more matches tomorrow, but like this is the only match they will ever play.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
May 24 2013 09:28 GMT
#1499
On May 24 2013 18:24 divinesage wrote:
Well to be fair NA was supposed to win early game with that team comp. Too bad they really couldn't press the advantage before China's late game comp started to spin in motion.

they were supposed to win the game with that teamcomp, they drafted brilliantly unlike in first match, just they managed to throw it by doing nothing and then gambling with nashor, this just showed that na loses no matter how terrible/good their picks are.
Chun-li since ST
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 24 2013 09:28 GMT
#1500
Who's this EU coach guy ?
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