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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2013 20:17 GMT
#81
Wither + Cait range; overkill peel?
CLG won't have the damage to kill TSM; is what I'm thinking. DL needs to go 6 offensive item build in order to actually deal damage against TSM's teamcomp.

Yup, with lux pick; not enough damage coming from CLG to deal with TSM.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 30 2013 20:18 GMT
#82
On March 31 2013 05:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Wither + Cait range; overkill peel?
CLG won't have the damage to kill TSM; is what I'm thinking. DL needs to go 6 offensive item build in order to actually deal damage against TSM's teamcomp.

Yup, with lux pick; not enough damage coming from CLG to deal with TSM.


I'm not too sure I follow this train of thought, please explain
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 30 2013 20:18 GMT
#83
On March 31 2013 05:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Wither + Cait range; overkill peel?
CLG won't have the damage to kill TSM; is what I'm thinking. DL needs to go 6 offensive item build in order to actually deal damage against TSM's teamcomp.

Yup, with lux pick; not enough damage coming from CLG to deal with TSM.

o.o Lux is quite a bit of magic damage, nothing to scoff at if played well.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 30 2013 20:18 GMT
#84
inb4 wildturtle shits on doublelift again

#dravenistrash2013
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2013 20:19 GMT
#85
On March 31 2013 05:16 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:12 Mensol wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:01 Fusilero wrote:
On March 31 2013 04:58 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 04:54 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 31 2013 04:52 Caphe wrote:
What if TSM lost to CLG and HotshotGG did well while WT did horrible...That would be so interesting to see .
In all seriousness I think TSM has 70% chance of winning maybe even more. CLG is just too terrible right now.


Honestly I am tuning in LCS this week just to see CLG lose. It's so fun.

Last week I watched the CLG vs DIG game 3 times.

Wow you really dislike CLG haha.

To be fair I too enjoy seeing clg lose, mostly because I can't stand how arrogant chauster and doublelift are.

Even scarra admits Chauster + doublelift is the only bottom lane in NA that can beat Asian botlanes.
they're arrogant, because they are that good.

I kinda missed Chausterlift. I hate their ego as well but it was nice having an NA lane that could match up to KR teams.

Actually, Chinese bot lane is the best right now not the Koreans.

Chinese bot lane
EU mid lane
Korean top lane
KoreanRussian jungle i guess?



FTFY


That's not fully correct though. It's about the synergy with jungle and top lane from what I've heard people say so far(or the synergy between jungle and mid lane). I'd rather have a korean jungler + korean top than to have Diamondprox in any other team besides m5. I can't believe that would ever work.

Eh, I'm looking at this holistically. Wx (and Uzi, to an extent & in due time) is the benchmark for ADCs everywhere. Of course he fits best with WE because they've practiced and comp around him.

Diamondprox is the same. Korean Junglers mesh extremely well with their team but they don't define them. Diamond on the other hand, again benchmark for Junglers every-fucking-where (hello Voli/Nasus) and of course he makes M5 looks amazing. Has been doing so since Kiev last year.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 30 2013 20:19 GMT
#86
CLG has so little damage lol.
Retvrn to Forvms
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#87
If you're going to do a protect the Doublelift comp why run Cait instead of Kog...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#88
CLG team comp is just peeling for and buffing Caitlyn. For a second I thought they were going to do top Nunu.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#89
Russian every single lane.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#90
If you wanted a real problem with CLG, it's probably going to be Nunu. Unless chauster absolutely counters/dominates oddone(which is why I assume nunu was picked), it's going to be a pretty weird choice for jungle.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#91
On March 31 2013 05:18 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Wither + Cait range; overkill peel?
CLG won't have the damage to kill TSM; is what I'm thinking. DL needs to go 6 offensive item build in order to actually deal damage against TSM's teamcomp.

Yup, with lux pick; not enough damage coming from CLG to deal with TSM.


I'm not too sure I follow this train of thought, please explain

Just saw this in EU LCS; sushei (misplay was a big part of it), but Lux simply doesn't do enough damage to burst that tankiness. Lux doesn't do enough DPS to melt down tankichamps. Seriously 1 Bulwark will destroy whatever damage Link is going to be put out.

But I was watching Link carry Scarra in solo queue, with Lux (went like 20-2); so if CLG can get early game lead, they'll have to force the win in midgame to maximize link's dmg potential.
liftlift > tsm
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 20:22:28
March 30 2013 20:21 GMT
#92
Cait has been the FotM go to carry in China for the past several months, why are people here pissed whenever she gets picked in LCS NA?
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#93
Lane swaps.... more like Lame swaps... am i rite???

So boring.
Retvrn to Forvms
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 20:23:50
March 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#94
On March 31 2013 05:21 Dan HH wrote:
Cait has been the FotM go to carry in China for the past several months, why are people here pissed whenever she gets picked in LCS NA?

She's annoying to play against. A properly played Cait is as hard, if not harder to catch than Ez.
On March 31 2013 05:23 Chrispy wrote:
Lane swaps.... more like Lame swaps... am i rite???

So boring.

Go play solo queue then; bruh!
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#95
On March 31 2013 05:21 Dan HH wrote:
Cait has been the FotM go to carry in China for the past several months, why are people here pissed whenever she gets picked in LCS NA?

Cait is a fine pick in general, I just don't think it fits their comp. It's like a pseudo-protect and ADC except Doublelift isn't playing a hyper carry like Kog
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 30 2013 20:24 GMT
#96
On March 31 2013 05:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:18 ketchup wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Wither + Cait range; overkill peel?
CLG won't have the damage to kill TSM; is what I'm thinking. DL needs to go 6 offensive item build in order to actually deal damage against TSM's teamcomp.

Yup, with lux pick; not enough damage coming from CLG to deal with TSM.


I'm not too sure I follow this train of thought, please explain

Just saw this in EU LCS; sushei (misplay was a big part of it), but Lux simply doesn't do enough damage to burst that tankiness. Lux doesn't do enough DPS to melt down tankichamps. Seriously 1 Bulwark will destroy whatever damage Link is going to be put out.

But I was watching Link carry Scarra in solo queue, with Lux (went like 20-2); so if CLG can get early game lead, they'll have to force the win in midgame to maximize link's dmg potential.


Thank you, I can understand that, and agree with it easily.

On March 31 2013 05:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:16 ketchup wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:12 Mensol wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:01 Fusilero wrote:
On March 31 2013 04:58 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 04:54 Sufficiency wrote:
[quote]

Honestly I am tuning in LCS this week just to see CLG lose. It's so fun.

Last week I watched the CLG vs DIG game 3 times.

Wow you really dislike CLG haha.

To be fair I too enjoy seeing clg lose, mostly because I can't stand how arrogant chauster and doublelift are.

Even scarra admits Chauster + doublelift is the only bottom lane in NA that can beat Asian botlanes.
they're arrogant, because they are that good.

I kinda missed Chausterlift. I hate their ego as well but it was nice having an NA lane that could match up to KR teams.

Actually, Chinese bot lane is the best right now not the Koreans.

Chinese bot lane
EU mid lane
Korean top lane
KoreanRussian jungle i guess?



FTFY


That's not fully correct though. It's about the synergy with jungle and top lane from what I've heard people say so far(or the synergy between jungle and mid lane). I'd rather have a korean jungler + korean top than to have Diamondprox in any other team besides m5. I can't believe that would ever work.

Eh, I'm looking at this holistically. Wx (and Uzi, to an extent & in due time) is the benchmark for ADCs everywhere. Of course he fits best with WE because they've practiced and comp around him.

Diamondprox is the same. Korean Junglers mesh extremely well with their team but they don't define them. Diamond on the other hand, again benchmark for Junglers every-fucking-where (hello Voli/Nasus) and of course he makes M5 looks amazing. Has been doing so since Kiev last year.


I see!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2013 20:24 GMT
#97
On March 31 2013 05:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:21 Dan HH wrote:
Cait has been the FotM go to carry in China for the past several months, why are people here pissed whenever she gets picked in LCS NA?

Cait is a fine pick in general, I just don't think it fits their comp. It's like a pseudo-protect and ADC except Doublelift isn't playing a hyper carry like Kog

Depends; if Doublelift goes full 6 offensive item + nunu, it'll be plenty hypercarry enough.
liftlift > tsm
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 30 2013 20:25 GMT
#98
eye of the storm and blood boil on cait, SCARY.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2013 20:25 GMT
#99
On March 31 2013 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 05:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 05:21 Dan HH wrote:
Cait has been the FotM go to carry in China for the past several months, why are people here pissed whenever she gets picked in LCS NA?

Cait is a fine pick in general, I just don't think it fits their comp. It's like a pseudo-protect and ADC except Doublelift isn't playing a hyper carry like Kog

Depends; if Doublelift goes full 6 offensive item + nunu, it'll be plenty hypercarry enough.

I guess, I still like Kog better, would do more damage. Plus after the BB nerf the damage drop off for late game Cait is noticeable.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 20:26:19
March 30 2013 20:25 GMT
#100
Hsgg trying his hand in midlane now? wut next? ADC? lulz.
with cait's range + this level of peel coming from rest of CLG; 6-offensive item cait can be very viable.
liftlift > tsm
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