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After assessing all the comments from EU Day 1, we've decided to put a warning in regards to any bashing of commentators and cameraman. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, don't post. You are always welcome to mute the stream. Understand that this is just the beginning and production is a work in progress. Thanks, TL LoL Staff 10.02.13 | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:49 GregMandel wrote: I really feel like Fnatics needs a new ADC i have a theory about this strat : xPeke told yellowstar to pick urgot and told him to " just build tanky it's ok " because he doesnt think he's gonna be on par so he'd rather a tanky Urgot and a super fed Caitlyn to carry them. Ok I'm probably a bit harsh and this strat was probably a legit counter to something in particular, but I still think they need AT LEAST a new ADC, I'd have to re-watch Katowice, but he left me really unsatisfied at that event, and that game he achieved almost nothing, fking up on First blood and then losing the lane to twitch / nunu /rant off PS : I'm not saying he's so bad he deserves gold 5, just that at a pro level, he's really behind the rests of europe's big teams AD carries. ( IMHO ) I think one of the biggest problems with replacing Rekkles was that they weren't a lot of free agent ADC on the market. Yellowstar was the best and most experienced of the lot. Even if fnatic succeeds, I feel like he's just a placeholder until Rekkles turns 17 | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:54 bokchoi wrote: I think one of the biggest problems with replacing Rekkles was that they weren't a lot of free agent ADC on the market. Yellowstar was the best and most experienced of the lot. Even if fnatic succeeds, I feel like he's just a placeholder until Rekkles turns 17 Which probably doesnt help as far as motivation goes Honestly I'm kinda sad for Yellowstar to be in that position | ||
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JALbert
United States484 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:49 GregMandel wrote: I really feel like Fnatics needs a new ADC i have a theory about this strat : xPeke told yellowstar to pick urgot and told him to " just build tanky it's ok " because he doesnt think he's gonna be on par so he'd rather a tanky Urgot and a super fed Caitlyn to carry them. Ok I'm probably a bit harsh and this strat was probably a legit counter to something in particular, but I still think they need AT LEAST a new ADC, I'd have to re-watch Katowice, but he left me really unsatisfied at that event, and that game he achieved almost nothing, fking up on First blood and then losing the lane to twitch / nunu /rant off PS : I'm not saying he's so bad he deserves gold 5, just that at a pro level, he's really behind the rests of europe's big teams AD carries. ( IMHO ) So SK's comp was at least semi-focused around twitch as a late game carry, so Taric/Urgot to shut it down made sense. On top of that, Cait mid let them push down mid tower and deny Anivia blue buffs, which she's very dependent on. Eve top also added a lot of pressure to blue, and having so many threats makes it hard for SK to save their squishy high damage carries. DLift played Urgot in Taric/Urgot too - I don't think it's a pick to cover up a weakness in all situations. | ||
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Mazzi
440 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:56 GregMandel wrote: Which probably doesnt help as far as motivation goes Honestly I'm kinda sad for Yellowstar to be in that position It kind of sucks, but at the same time he can see this as an extended try-out for other teams. LCS is the biggest stage in League right now and every pro players want to be apart of it. This is his chance to showcase his skills against the best in EU for the world to see. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:56 GregMandel wrote: Which probably doesnt help as far as motivation goes Honestly I'm kinda sad for Yellowstar to be in that position Wolves mid laner is kind of in the same spot where he's just a placeholder for bjerson (However you spell it) gotta suck for them. That being said saying "I played for a S3 team" is still gonna be pretty sweet for them when they go find a new team (Or at least they're guaranteed to be subs) | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:54 bokchoi wrote: I think one of the biggest problems with replacing Rekkles was that they weren't a lot of free agent ADC on the market. Yellowstar was the best and most experienced of the lot. Even if fnatic succeeds, I feel like he's just a placeholder until Rekkles turns 17 He most likely is a placeholder as Rekkles is simply more talented then him. Respect for Yellowstar for he proberly knows it, yet he play's in my book not bad for a guy who knows this information and has played alot less with the rest of Fnatic as Rekkles did. | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:57 JALbert wrote: So SK's comp was at least semi-focused around twitch as a late game carry, so Taric/Urgot to shut it down made sense. On top of that, Cait mid let them push down mid tower and deny Anivia blue buffs, which she's very dependent on. Eve top also added a lot of pressure to blue, and having so many threats makes it hard for SK to save their squishy high damage carries. DLift played Urgot in Taric/Urgot too - I don't think it's a pick to cover up a weakness in all situations. yeah I was joking when i said that :p but when you want to use a comp to deny the ennemy ADC, giving him FB and losing lane is probably not what you want to do Riot delayed the match to fix stream issues btw | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:49 GregMandel wrote: I really feel like Fnatics needs a new ADC i have a theory about this strat : xPeke told yellowstar to pick urgot and told him to " just build tanky it's ok " because he doesnt think he's gonna be on par so he'd rather a tanky Urgot and a super fed Caitlyn to carry them. Ok I'm probably a bit harsh and this strat was probably a legit counter to something in particular, but I still think they need AT LEAST a new ADC, I'd have to re-watch Katowice, but he left me really unsatisfied at that event, and that game he achieved almost nothing, fking up on First blood and then losing the lane to twitch / nunu /rant off PS : I'm not saying he's so bad he deserves gold 5, just that at a pro level, he's really behind the rests of europe's big teams AD carries. ( IMHO ) Can we stop bashing players just because of one game? We have a whole season, 28 games per player before us. We will have enough time to form opinions. | ||
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Frozenzen
Sweden97 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 10 2013 04:03 Redox wrote: Can we stop bashing players just because of one game? We have a whole season, 28 games per player before us. We will have enough time to form opinions. While I agree bashing might not be in order, since Rekkles has left Fnatic hasn't looked nearly as dominant as they did with him (IEM and even the LCS Qualifiers). He might not need to be replaced, but the differential in talent between Rekkles and Yellowstar is certainly noticeable. | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On February 10 2013 04:03 Redox wrote: Can we stop bashing players just because of one game? We have a whole season, 28 games per player before us. We will have enough time to form opinions. I'm saying this based on the overall performance of all the AD carries during IEM Katowice And I clearly stated that it's not a new thing from me, you can probably look for my post in the Katowice thread, where I get bashed because I speak my mind about Yellowstar, and if at that times it wasn't legitimate, it's definitely going more and more in my way. Now if you could stop bashing on people without reading properly that'd be great. And then again it's not mindlessly bashing a player because he did bad in one game, but much rather a clear statement over the course of one event and a match; We'll see if he shines in the other games, but I'm ready to bet a lot that he isnt going to. | ||
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skykh
3006 Posts
Icontrol comment on downtime | ||
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Gurdjieff
Netherlands14 Posts
On February 10 2013 04:05 Frozenzen wrote: Any idea of how long the games are delayed? Can't find an update on it anywhere, and can't have stream sound on atm. We seem to be about to get back underway. My tip would be to start with the youtube stream. Twitch should follow on... #LCS https://twitter.com/lolesports So hopefully really soon! | ||
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On February 10 2013 03:59 GregMandel wrote: yeah I was joking when i said that :p but when you want to use a comp to deny the ennemy ADC, giving him FB and losing lane is probably not what you want to do Riot delayed the match to fix stream issues btw I don't think fnatic had the right jungler to really pressure Twitch - Kayle can't go for the early dive like Lee Sin, Olaf and the likes could. Also, Nunu really ruins the day for the Urgot/Taric lane - Iceball plus Bloodboil can prevent Taric from ever getting in stun range, and the counter-attack from Twitch is deadly, especially when bloodboiled. CLG had a way easier time vs. TSM - Urgot got the early blue buff, and while Ezreal may be more slippery, Ez/Lulu are far less deadly on the counterattack, especially against a Taric. They also had a more aggressive jungler (Lee Sin) and an enemy jungler with zero presence. It's also pretty funny that people point at the AD carry transition for fnatic's decline in performance. I think the S2-S3 transition hurt them more than other teams, even though Peke and sOAZ are very variable in their champ pools. sOAZ gets caught mis-estimating his champ way more frequently, and fnatic doesn't seem to like the health-stacking "meta" at all. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 10 2013 04:08 skykh wrote: https://twitter.com/EGiNcontroL/status/300316678741434368 Icontrol comment on downtime Considering who it is we're lucky the delay is before the game rather than in the middle of it hue. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 10 2013 04:10 onlywonderboy wrote: Considering who it is we're lucky the delay is before the game rather than in the middle of it hue. With EG time becomes a blur you stop noticing how long nothing has happened and whether anything is happening stream working or not. On February 10 2013 04:11 bokchoi wrote: 4am... must stay up.. :[[[[[ Stay up through an EG match? You are a brave man. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
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