EPT[IPL] IPL5 Discussion - Page 43
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:21 iKill[ShocK] wrote: LET THE SWEET TSM FAN BOY TEARS FLOW TODAY! YES! prediction is coming true!!! | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:48 Jamial wrote: TSM got outpicked. Simple as that. Who gives up Jax, Vayne, AND Lulu anyway. and chaox/xspecial got completely outplayed.. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:44 oogieogie wrote: ugh..if TOO went bot then curse could probably turn it around. Creation was destroying chaox and xspecial. If he went after the first blood, but before Vayne got any more kills I think they could have turned it around. OddOne just wasn't ganking at all. He got that kill in the river on Cho and then went top at like 20 minutes but he didn't really do anything all game. I don't know if that is just how he plays Mundo or it was just bad decision-making. That was disappointing. TSM didn't really seem like they had control at any point in that game. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
Xpecial gets shitted on extremely hard after all that trash talk about Element. Actually, if it was Chaox/Element bot lane, they might not lose that hard cos I am sure Ele would not be that try hard and get back fired every single time. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:49 oogieogie wrote: and chaox/xspecial got completely outplayed.. Shen also isn't supposed to get bullied in lane by a Jax. | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:50 TheSinisterRed wrote: If he went after the first blood, but before Vayne got any more kills I think they could have turned it around. OddOne just wasn't ganking at all. He got that kill in the river on Cho and then went top at like 20 minutes but he didn't really do anything all game. I don't know if that is just how he plays Mundo or it was just bad decision-making. That was disappointing. TSM didn't really seem like they had control at any point in that game. He usually doesn't gank if lanes are losing. I wish I saw the beginning more, but i started around vayne had double dorans already where it was just stupid from there. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:50 Sandster wrote: Shen also isn't supposed to get bullied in lane by a Jax. Yeah he kinda is. Jax too strong for shen really Hah, so destroyed | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:50 Slusher wrote: They got Shen, Ez AND Zyra in return. Shen sure, but Ez is not broken anymore, and Zyra mid is not really where Zyra shines. Her toolset is just as good with support items, and she does more to put pressure early when she's bot. They could've had Zyra support, Ez and Diana (who shits on Kat). Nm, tsm banned Diana. >< | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
On November 28 2012 21:19 divinesage wrote: My Power Rankings 1. AZB 2. M5 3. TPA 4. WE 5. CLG EU 6. Fnatic 7. CLG NA 8. SGS 9. TSM 10. Crs NA 11. FeaR 12. TD 13. IceLanD 14. Meat 15. Crs EU 16. Blackbean I have a feeling that if AZB play their game like in MLG Fall they would be unstoppable. As to why TPA falls behind M5, one of the reasons why TPA could have possibly won in WC was because they were an unfamiliar team, as they are way more prominent now, I think teams which prepare hard for TPA will be able to overcome them, and the team with the highest chance of that is M5. The next four teams have shown to be strong as of late, and their recent performances would put them in good stead here. The next few teams I feel are about the same level, and its only their current form and experience of the team that would determine who wins if they go head to head. As for the last four, IceLanD probably could rank higher up but I'm not too familiar with the team. Meat is a new team and will need some time to get better, but I won't be surprised if they placed much higher. Crs EU on the other hand might be in quite a bit of trouble after SuperAZE leaves in the last minute, citing lack of practice and complacency in the team. Blackbean, unfortunately I would place last due to the relative weakness of the Thai scene. But again I won't be surprised if they do take a few games off the mid-table teams as their playstyle is unfamiliar and they're coming into this tournament as the biggest underdogs with nothing to lose. I wonder how my predictions for IPL5 will turn out.. Underrated! | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:45 wei2coolman wrote: That's coming from hindsight, though. Playing out the lane 2v2, was absolutely the right decision from TSM. Just because they played it out wrong, doesn't mean it wasn't the right choice. If you don't think Ez+leona is better in laning phase over vayne+lulu, than there's no point continuing this line of argument. ez completely outplays vayne in lane, with superior poke. Ez+leona's full engage throughout lane phase is almost always better than vayne+lulu at all levels during laning phase. If you're running ez, you almost always want to run the 2v2 lane, because ez's main strength is superior laning phase. you only want to run hypercarries in 2v1 lanes, due to weak lane phase, vayne is one of these carries. 1. What engage from leona? She could never engage on vayne. 2. Jax isnt good 1v2, 2v1 from tsm wouldnt allow him to shit on shen so hard. 3. If ez leona is so much better wouldnt you think that curse eu would send vayne lulu top? Whatever, unexpected outcome nevertheless, thought tsm would win quite hard just by outskilling curse. | ||
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Fwmeh
1286 Posts
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:50 Sandster wrote: Shen also isn't supposed to get bullied in lane by a Jax. Well, Malunoo put a lot of pressure top. Reginald, however, lost his lane as Zyra vs. Kat before level 4 (was already down by >10 cs)... | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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nxk
United Kingdom2291 Posts
Yeah he kinda is. Jax too strong for shen really Hah, so destroyed Nah, Shen is supposed to beat Jax in lane, but Jax got the early lvl 2 from wraiths and then Cho kept camping top while OddOne didn't even show himself in any of the lanes until level 7 (or later?) | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9251 Posts
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