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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#821
On November 30 2012 06:40 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:39 Slusher wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Artok wrote:
To be honest, tsm should have 2v1'd if they wanted leona that hard, she doesnt have anything on lulu vayne.


why would you 2v1 ez vs vayne lol?

so vayne doesnt get 4 levels advantage over ez.

and then vayne just super outscales Ezreal later on anyway -_-
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:43:17
November 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#822
On November 30 2012 06:40 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:39 Slusher wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Artok wrote:
To be honest, tsm should have 2v1'd if they wanted leona that hard, she doesnt have anything on lulu vayne.


why would you 2v1 ez vs vayne lol?

so vayne doesnt get 4 levels advantage over ez.


hindsight, getting outplayed =/= bad strategy, the in lane matchup vastly favors Ez
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#823
On November 30 2012 06:41 HazMat wrote:
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On November 30 2012 06:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Is this the same xpecial that was talking shit to elementz? lol. karma's a bitch.

Not sure that has anything to do with Curse.eu, lol.

It doesn't, but it's pretty funny how he was talking about elementz not having certain skill sets in lane, yet here's xpecial getting shit on playing a leona+ez lane against lulu+vayne lane. like absolutely shat on.
liftlift > tsm
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:45:49
November 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#824
On November 30 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:40 Artok wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Slusher wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Artok wrote:
To be honest, tsm should have 2v1'd if they wanted leona that hard, she doesnt have anything on lulu vayne.


why would you 2v1 ez vs vayne lol?

so vayne doesnt get 4 levels advantage over ez.

and then vayne just super outscales Ezreal later on anyway -_-

Theres a phase between laning and late game where they could have had a chance, now they dont.

On November 30 2012 06:42 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:40 Artok wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Slusher wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Artok wrote:
To be honest, tsm should have 2v1'd if they wanted leona that hard, she doesnt have anything on lulu vayne.


why would you 2v1 ez vs vayne lol?

so vayne doesnt get 4 levels advantage over ez.


hindsight, getting outplayed =/= bad strategy, the in lane matchup vastly favors Ez


Dont see how ez leona lane has a super advantage over vayne lulu and assuming that youre going to outplay opponents massively isnt a good strategy either.
Chun-li since ST
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
November 29 2012 21:43 GMT
#825
Vayne got huge so fast. No pressure by OddOne bot while Chaox and Xpecial couldn't handle it. I don't see TSM coming back from this. Everyone else either went even or down slightly, so no one can really dive for Vayne.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
November 29 2012 21:43 GMT
#826
Okay. Oddone derps and gets caught. Then they stop the baron attempt with clutch ez ulti, and a bit of an overzealous play by Creaton. Then Xpecial derps, and Dyrus ults Chaox. What? O_o

So many fails on TSM.
Flaf?
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
November 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#827
Iceland vs CLG.EU. within first 5 min 1 towers down each, 2 kills each, dragon for Iceland........ wth is going on?
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#828
On November 30 2012 06:43 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Vayne got huge so fast. No pressure by OddOne bot while Chaox and Xpecial couldn't handle it. I don't see TSM coming back from this. Everyone else either went even or down slightly, so no one can really dive for Vayne.

ugh..if TOO went bot then curse could probably turn it around. Creation was destroying chaox and xspecial.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#829
Jatt talking so softly.

Apparently he has learned from his excitement at Dallas, lol. He already sounds like his voice is going to get destroyed.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:48:49
November 29 2012 21:45 GMT
#830
On November 30 2012 06:42 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:40 Artok wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Slusher wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:39 Artok wrote:
To be honest, tsm should have 2v1'd if they wanted leona that hard, she doesnt have anything on lulu vayne.


why would you 2v1 ez vs vayne lol?

so vayne doesnt get 4 levels advantage over ez.

and then vayne just super outscales Ezreal later on anyway -_-

Theres a phase between laning and late game where they could have had a chance, now they dont.

That's coming from hindsight, though. Playing out the lane 2v2, was absolutely the right decision from TSM. Just because they played it out wrong, doesn't mean it wasn't the right choice.


If you don't think Ez+leona is better in laning phase over vayne+lulu, than there's no point continuing this line of argument.
ez completely outplays vayne in lane, with superior poke. Ez+leona's full engage throughout lane phase is almost always better than vayne+lulu at all levels during laning phase. If you're running ez, you almost always want to run the 2v2 lane, because ez's main strength is superior laning phase. you only want to run hypercarries in 2v1 lanes, due to weak lane phase, vayne is one of these carries.
liftlift > tsm
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
November 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#831
that was murder
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#832
So satisfying watching TSM getting wrecked.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#833
On November 30 2012 06:42 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:38 AsnSensation wrote:
pretty embarassing for TSM, Curse is even playing with a sub

better switch to stream 2 Froggen on Lux vs TF expect some sick snipes.

I can see it now on Dyrus' Twitter "We lost because teams always do better with subs, gg"

thats not dyrus..dyrus would be more "we played like shit we are going to practice and come out of this much stronger. I hope you guys continue to support us."

Yeah, you're thinking of CLG.na.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#834
ahahaha TSM TSM TSM
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#835
On November 30 2012 06:44 Doctorbeat wrote:
Jatt talking so softly.

Apparently he has learned from his excitement at Dallas, lol. He already sounds like his voice is going to get destroyed.


Jatt is sick
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#836
On November 30 2012 06:46 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:42 oogieogie wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:38 AsnSensation wrote:
pretty embarassing for TSM, Curse is even playing with a sub

better switch to stream 2 Froggen on Lux vs TF expect some sick snipes.

I can see it now on Dyrus' Twitter "We lost because teams always do better with subs, gg"

thats not dyrus..dyrus would be more "we played like shit we are going to practice and come out of this much stronger. I hope you guys continue to support us."

Yeah, you're thinking of CLG.na.

highly doubt it since CLG NA don't practice.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#837
On November 30 2012 06:42 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:38 AsnSensation wrote:
pretty embarassing for TSM, Curse is even playing with a sub

better switch to stream 2 Froggen on Lux vs TF expect some sick snipes.

I can see it now on Dyrus' Twitter "We lost because teams always do better with subs, gg"

thats not dyrus..dyrus would be more "we played like shit we are going to practice and come out of this much stronger. I hope you guys continue to support us."

Probably both, Dyrus was the one making excuses about Regi not having Vsync on or whatever at Dallas lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#838
curse EU with 2 GAs now
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 29 2012 21:48 GMT
#839
On November 30 2012 06:46 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:44 Doctorbeat wrote:
Jatt talking so softly.

Apparently he has learned from his excitement at Dallas, lol. He already sounds like his voice is going to get destroyed.


Jatt is sick


Oh really?

That's sad I thought he was just being really careful with his voice...
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
November 29 2012 21:48 GMT
#840
TSM got outpicked. Simple as that. Who gives up Jax, Vayne, AND Lulu anyway.
Flaf?
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