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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2012 06:28 GMT
#3541
On December 01 2012 15:21 KissBlade wrote:
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On December 01 2012 15:18 daemir wrote:
Just woke up and checked results, Fnatic over TPA, holy moly! Were the games good?


To be honest, TPA played a bit ... questionably. They're good if you're a Fnatic fan since they've been considered a free win this tourney.

Fnatic's draft was very well thought out in taking TPA out of their comfort zone. The questionable play from TPA can be attributed to their inexperience/discomfort with the champs/teamcomps in question.
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 06:40:13
December 01 2012 06:36 GMT
#3542
On December 01 2012 15:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 15:21 KissBlade wrote:
On December 01 2012 15:18 daemir wrote:
Just woke up and checked results, Fnatic over TPA, holy moly! Were the games good?


To be honest, TPA played a bit ... questionably. They're good if you're a Fnatic fan since they've been considered a free win this tourney.

Fnatic's draft was very well thought out in taking TPA out of their comfort zone. The questionable play from TPA can be attributed to their inexperience/discomfort with the champs/teamcomps in question.


That's my point. TPA looked really clumsy those games.

PS. Fnatic played very well though. Not going to take that away from them.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 01 2012 06:37 GMT
#3543
On December 01 2012 15:18 daemir wrote:
Just woke up and checked results, Fnatic over TPA, holy moly! Were the games good?

As a TPA fan, I have to say TPA played really bad and threw early game advantages. That said, Fnatic drafted and played extremely well. They were able to get their Vayne quite fed both games despite her being very behind early on both games. Fnatic also drafted very smart by making TPA (namely Toyz) play champs he's didnt seem comfortable playing. Games were definitely worth watching.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 01 2012 06:37 GMT
#3544
As much as I like clg.eu, I think WE is looking really strong. Going to give it to them.
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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
December 01 2012 06:43 GMT
#3545
On December 01 2012 15:21 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 15:18 daemir wrote:
Just woke up and checked results, Fnatic over TPA, holy moly! Were the games good?


To be honest, TPA played a bit ... questionably. They're good if you're a Fnatic fan since they've been considered a free win this tourney.


I don't really think TPA played particularly poorly, they just didn't play as exceptionally as they did at s2 worlds. Fnatic played very well and won deservedly. They were organized, focused and intelligent throughout the series and their performance shouldn't be downplayed with the excuse of their opponents not playing well. Part of that after all has to do the Fnatic's performance as well.

The games were quite enjoyable from a neutral perspective.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 06:49:07
December 01 2012 06:47 GMT
#3546
Since everyone's just quoting my post ... I'm just going to point out, I only meant Fnatic played well. TPA didn't, respectively speaking, (Especially if you compare it to their game against M5).
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 01 2012 07:02 GMT
#3547
On December 01 2012 14:50 Azarkon wrote:
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On December 01 2012 14:30 TheYango wrote:
If WE loses, it's going to be because of the psychological factor of having lost to them before putting them on tilt.

Hopefully their nerves are more stable than that, but no guarantees.

Also, the discussion yesterday of where Chinese second-tier teams placed in relation to NA/EU is kind of hilarious looking at today's results. Pretty much any second-tier Chinese team has better results vs. Korean teams than TSM does, and TSM is still definitively one of the top 3-4 NA teams.


Depends on what you think are tier 1 / tier 2 teams for NA / EU. I think TSM is a tier 2 team when taking NA / EU together. Course, NA LoL is just sad.


Yesterday the conversation was specifically about whether NA mid-tier teams were better than Chinese mid-tier teams. Since pretty much everyone is okay with saying that WE and iG are better than the top tier NA teams.

But considering the top tier NA teams consist of TSM (who have been slumping hard since S2 Finals), Dignitas (who didn't even qualify for IPL5), and CLGna (who look the strongest of the NA teams atm but have had a really easy road thus far)...yeah...

You're right though, the NA scene is pretty sad. Wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese teams that aren't iG/WE are better than, or just as good as, CLG/TSM/Dig.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 01 2012 07:55 GMT
#3548
Is this first time CLG NA beat EU in a Bo3?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 01 2012 08:15 GMT
#3549
On December 01 2012 16:55 MooMooMugi wrote:
Is this first time CLG NA beat EU in a Bo3?

clg na hasnt played clg eu in a bo3 this tourney but they did win in like anaheim or something
jaedong the man with the huge dong
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 08:54:11
December 01 2012 08:48 GMT
#3550
fnatic tpa rebroadcast started RIGHT NOW


nvm its the 2nd game allready, didnt see correctly due to poor stream quality
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 01 2012 08:55 GMT
#3551
Oh CLG beat Curse EU not CLG EU my bad
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 01 2012 09:01 GMT
#3552
Apparently TL did an interview with locodoco? The link isn't the interview itself but it references loco and Hot_Bid trying to troll him.
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Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#3553
chauster on the last teamfight in game 3
"What was going through your team's head during game 3 against curse EU when you guys decided to go for the inhib, knowing it come down to a team fight to win the game? wanted to force because doubelift had GA and LP?
-i was like were going to win the game here because our tema owns. then our team misplays like assholes and we win by 1 hit because everyone played like shit"
jaedong the man with the huge dong
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 01 2012 09:45 GMT
#3554
Ahh, yesterday i skipped all the matches after the first, so i didn't see the TPA... TPA 2:0'd :O Now we only need the miracle from CLG.EU, and we can still have the M5 vs EU grand finals.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 01 2012 09:45 GMT
#3555
Azubu Blaze vs M5 - CLG.eu vs WE

Today going to be epic!!!!!!!
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 01 2012 09:48 GMT
#3556
Just realized something....TSM played the exact same team comp for both games vs. CLG.EU yesterday. Seems like a pretty bad idea.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 09:56:28
December 01 2012 09:55 GMT
#3557
On December 01 2012 18:48 Koenig99 wrote:
Just realized something....TSM played the exact same team comp for both games vs. CLG.EU yesterday. Seems like a pretty bad idea.

It wouldn't be a bad idea if the team comp was any good.

On December 01 2012 18:45 shinarit wrote:
Ahh, yesterday i skipped all the matches after the first, so i didn't see the TPA... TPA 2:0'd :O Now we only need the miracle from CLG.EU, and we can still have the M5 vs EU grand finals.

lol fuck that
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shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 01 2012 10:17 GMT
#3558
On December 01 2012 18:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 18:45 shinarit wrote:
Ahh, yesterday i skipped all the matches after the first, so i didn't see the TPA... TPA 2:0'd :O Now we only need the miracle from CLG.EU, and we can still have the M5 vs EU grand finals.

lol fuck that


They robbed it from me in the s2 finals, so it IS due.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 10:29:16
December 01 2012 10:25 GMT
#3559
On December 01 2012 19:17 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 18:55 TheYango wrote:
On December 01 2012 18:45 shinarit wrote:
Ahh, yesterday i skipped all the matches after the first, so i didn't see the TPA... TPA 2:0'd :O Now we only need the miracle from CLG.EU, and we can still have the M5 vs EU grand finals.

lol fuck that


They robbed it from me in the s2 finals, so it IS due.

We'll have an M5/Eu finals when both teams are actually playing well enough to look like they deserve to be in the finals.

CLG.Eu simply didn't play well enough at World Champs to deserve to be in the finals. You didn't get robbed of anything. M5's play here has likewise not been up to what I expect from a finals team. CLG.Eu's hard to call because they've pretty much only played clown teams so far, and WE is their first match against a team that's remotely a contender.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 01 2012 10:29 GMT
#3560
Lol pls no best of 20 with CLG EU vs WE again just end it in 2 please. PLEASE
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