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templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 01 2012 04:36 GMT
#3501
TSM was also never really punishing Blaze for constantly sending people off to farm side lines. Every time someone on TSM showed up, Blaze would try to push something. The rest of TSM would just derp around in mid and do nothing whenever Ambition or Jack went bot to farm.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 01 2012 04:36 GMT
#3502
And suddenly ambition starts playing catch.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#3503
On December 01 2012 13:35 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Regi being behind in farm really did kill it for them. I don't get how he was down so much on Morgana of all champions. Olaf was way ahead and Ez wasn't too far behind Corki. If Regi would have had hourglass on time those teamfights would have gone much better for TSM.

It wasn't so much that he was behind in farm, it was more that he went abyssal first instead of zhonyas

he just totally mistimed his power curve
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
December 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#3504
On December 01 2012 13:34 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:30 oogieogie wrote:
well gg TSM..every single fucking lane just raped by koreans.

Dyrus crushed his lane, and the ADs were even. Were you even watching the games? Insanely close.

the haters are even worse than the fanboys tbh.

Was an entertaining game 1. Game 2 was pretty good as well, but Azubu always wins team fights at the right time, and wins them hard.

I am actually a fan of TSM, but they do get raped by koreans. I would just be blind if I said otherwise..TSM has major problems with korean teams, but they seem to be getting better vs at least blaze.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#3505
Reginald needs to pick it up or retire. He's hurting TSM. So is Chaox, and XPecial, and sometimes TOO...
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
December 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#3506
On December 01 2012 13:35 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Regi being behind in farm really did kill it for them. I don't get how he was down so much on Morgana of all champions. Olaf was way ahead and Ez wasn't too far behind Corki. If Regi would have had hourglass on time those teamfights would have gone much better for TSM.

Ambition controlled the jungle. Because Regi could never stand up to Ambition and TOO never seemed to be there at the right time Ambition controlled both wraiths and got his own wolves several times. Add to it the fact that Ambition was winning most trades in lane, he just was in a better position all game.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 04:38:51
December 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#3507
On December 01 2012 13:30 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:29 Artok wrote:
Reginald getting outfarmed hard every game kinda blows ;/


even when TSM was busy rolling all the north american competition Regi would lose lane every game.

Doesn't matter, killed Scarra once in 1v1 at Regionals.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 01 2012 04:38 GMT
#3508
On December 01 2012 13:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
No, it was just the fact that they made a large positional misplay and failed to correctly time their power curve to respond to AZB's HUGE midgame

And the fact their team doesn't do anything. Seriously, what the fuck does their team do? It's just a group of champions they like to play. Blazes team isn't going to get weaker once they pass midgame, and TSM doesn't get stronger. Once Blaze groups they straight win with their ults.

TSM went for anti-dive with Mao/Lulu/Morg, especially with the Mao/Morg picks after seeing Noct/Diana. But I don't think Morg is the strongest pick for an anti-dive team, there are champions with much better disengages. Ori was banned, but Anivia and Zyra should both be pretty strong? (Not sure how Anivia or Zyra do in lane vs Diana)

Regi's champ pool is pretty limited though. TSM should recruit Pobelter and have him masquerade as Regi
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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 01 2012 04:39 GMT
#3509
On December 01 2012 13:37 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Reginald needs to pick it up or retire. He's hurting TSM. So is Chaox, and XPecial, and sometimes TOO...

So what you're saying is to replace the entire team?
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
December 01 2012 04:40 GMT
#3510
On December 01 2012 13:39 Koenig99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:37 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Reginald needs to pick it up or retire. He's hurting TSM. So is Chaox, and XPecial, and sometimes TOO...

So what you're saying is to replace the entire team?

TSM has to bench everyone it is the only way.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 01 2012 04:40 GMT
#3511
On December 01 2012 13:37 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:34 King K. Rool wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:30 oogieogie wrote:
well gg TSM..every single fucking lane just raped by koreans.

Dyrus crushed his lane, and the ADs were even. Were you even watching the games? Insanely close.

the haters are even worse than the fanboys tbh.

Was an entertaining game 1. Game 2 was pretty good as well, but Azubu always wins team fights at the right time, and wins them hard.

I am actually a fan of TSM, but they do get raped by koreans. I would just be blind if I said otherwise..TSM has major problems with korean teams, but they seem to be getting better vs at least blaze.

This was probably their closest showing against a Korean team...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 01 2012 04:41 GMT
#3512
On December 01 2012 13:39 Koenig99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:37 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Reginald needs to pick it up or retire. He's hurting TSM. So is Chaox, and XPecial, and sometimes TOO...

So what you're saying is to replace the entire team?

I was half-joking, but I'm getting tired of seeing consistent bans on Darius and Olaf, because only Dyrus can carry
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 01 2012 04:41 GMT
#3513
Btw, did Dyrus ever play Jax/Irelia? WoDx mentioned he 1v1'd that matchup with Dyrus a bunch before this tournament. Kinda funny if he did that and then never played either of them.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
December 01 2012 04:42 GMT
#3514
On December 01 2012 13:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:37 oogieogie wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:34 King K. Rool wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:30 oogieogie wrote:
well gg TSM..every single fucking lane just raped by koreans.

Dyrus crushed his lane, and the ADs were even. Were you even watching the games? Insanely close.

the haters are even worse than the fanboys tbh.

Was an entertaining game 1. Game 2 was pretty good as well, but Azubu always wins team fights at the right time, and wins them hard.

I am actually a fan of TSM, but they do get raped by koreans. I would just be blind if I said otherwise..TSM has major problems with korean teams, but they seem to be getting better vs at least blaze.

This was probably their closest showing against a Korean team...

It only took them 11 games and a whole new top for blaze..
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
December 01 2012 04:42 GMT
#3515
On December 01 2012 13:38 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
No, it was just the fact that they made a large positional misplay and failed to correctly time their power curve to respond to AZB's HUGE midgame

And the fact their team doesn't do anything. Seriously, what the fuck does their team do? It's just a group of champions they like to play. Blazes team isn't going to get weaker once they pass midgame, and TSM doesn't get stronger. Once Blaze groups they straight win with their ults.

TSM went for anti-dive with Mao/Lulu/Morg, especially with the Mao/Morg picks after seeing Noct/Diana. But I don't think Morg is the strongest pick for an anti-dive team, there are champions with much better disengages. Ori was banned, but Anivia and Zyra should both be pretty strong? (Not sure how Anivia or Zyra do in lane vs Diana)

Regi's champ pool is pretty limited though. TSM should recruit Pobelter and have him masquerade as Regi

You DON'T want Regi to play Anivia, unless you hate TSM. I saw him playing with her many times in scrims... oh god, if you think he's TF is bad, then you should've seen what he did with that birdo. All his walls were TERRIBLE, and every time he screwed it, he just said "maaaan, so close!"....
R11
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada213 Posts
December 01 2012 04:43 GMT
#3516
I found the slightest thing made all the difference in that game two. On the top of my head, TSM minions were pushing both bot/top, had they just waited it out, AZB would've lost a ton of gold/exp and TSM also had good dragon control earlier on. It was when blue buffed spawned where they had to back off to get blue which created the chain reaction as they didn't want to be caught at a tight space near blue/ lose dragon control that resulted in them moving to the corner to get completely caught out by diana + sona.


Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 01 2012 04:43 GMT
#3517
On December 01 2012 13:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:37 oogieogie wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:34 King K. Rool wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:30 oogieogie wrote:
well gg TSM..every single fucking lane just raped by koreans.

Dyrus crushed his lane, and the ADs were even. Were you even watching the games? Insanely close.

the haters are even worse than the fanboys tbh.

Was an entertaining game 1. Game 2 was pretty good as well, but Azubu always wins team fights at the right time, and wins them hard.

I am actually a fan of TSM, but they do get raped by koreans. I would just be blind if I said otherwise..TSM has major problems with korean teams, but they seem to be getting better vs at least blaze.

This was probably their closest showing against a Korean team...

Game 1 is ok, but game 2 is not even close it may look close because Dyrus got fed quite hard. Mid and ADC lanes lost quite terribly esp Reginald fail Morg.
And when AZB got just one good team fight its over, TSM can't even fight under the bot tower in AZB next push, so game 2 is not even close at all.
Terran
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 01 2012 04:44 GMT
#3518
On December 01 2012 13:37 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Reginald needs to pick it up or retire. He's hurting TSM. So is Chaox, and XPecial, and sometimes TOO...


He should retire and then come back a day later and be like, "nah jk no one can replace me."

I feel like TPA probably gonna be the team that comes up from the losers bracket. I also think that Fnatic will very likely beat CLGna into losers. I wanna see WE take it against CLGeu. They need vengeance for their near-win five day series.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9216 Posts
December 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#3519
I think this is the first time M5 is meeting a Korean team in a tournament.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#3520
On December 01 2012 13:37 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Ambition controlled both wraiths and got his own wolves several times..


Win wraiths win game is the story of Mid/Jungle.
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