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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 01 2012 14:32 GMT
#3581
I'm watching Fnatic vs TPA (that feature is really good btw) and wow, Vayne aggros Graves bot? TF and Shen immediatly ult there and Mundo rushes to them. 2v2 turning into 2v5 instantly. Ouch.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 14:43:15
December 01 2012 14:40 GMT
#3582
I think CLG has a decent shot of beating Fnatic. Fnatic did play well but overall I think TPA was off their game and they were caught offguard by some of Fnatics picks. TPA also picked poorly. Toyz on TF and Diana doesn't fit his playstyle very well. With Ori/Aniv banned I think he should have picked Karthus or Vlad instead.

The one team I think CLG.NA can not beat under any circumstance is WE. WE is like CLG with a better bot lane (double and WX are somewhat even but support isn't even close) and better mid lane. They have a poor record against them historically.

That being said, I think CLG.EU actually matches up pretty well with WE. I feel like CLG.EU does better against asian teams than M5/TSM/whoever because they are very confident playing from behind. Asian teams greatest strength is getting early advantage through out-CSing and killing towers. Asian teams in general biggest weakness is they like to throw games which is how CLG.EU usually wins.. survive early game then wait for opponent to make mistakes.

APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
December 01 2012 15:02 GMT
#3583
On December 01 2012 15:21 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 15:18 daemir wrote:
Just woke up and checked results, Fnatic over TPA, holy moly! Were the games good?


To be honest, TPA played a bit ... questionably. They're good if you're a Fnatic fan since they've been considered a free win this tourney.


??

i don't think anybody who has been following LoL much in the past couple of weeks considers fnatic a free win. they've had some really good results.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2012 15:21 GMT
#3584
On December 01 2012 23:09 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 22:49 schmutttt wrote:
CLG vs CLG winners

hotshot pls


After yesterday, you really think clg can beat fnatic?


zzz, sure, why not?
Weren't there plenty of users who laughed when I posted Loco predicting a Fnatic win over TPA?

Chauster say they can handle Fnatic.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2012 15:22 GMT
#3585
lol, Fnatic free win?
If you think that, you are clueless as fuck. Get out of your mind of the Fnatic with Shushei/Season 1. This is an entirely new team, just old brand name.
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FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
December 01 2012 15:32 GMT
#3586
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 01 2012 15:36 GMT
#3587
I missed all the matches yesterday, Any recommended games/matches? Btw saw doublelift pentakill. YEEEEEEAAAAAAAA.
liftlift > tsm
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 01 2012 15:42 GMT
#3588
On December 02 2012 00:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
lol, Fnatic free win?
If you think that, you are clueless as fuck. Get out of your mind of the Fnatic with Shushei/Season 1. This is an entirely new team, just old brand name.

Yeah, Fnatic's problem was keeping Shushei on the team long after he showed no willingness to practice.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
December 01 2012 15:44 GMT
#3589
Omg neo. Hotbid and locodoco. This seems to be the best interview ever made ever. Make them stay togeather more.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 01 2012 15:45 GMT
#3590
On December 02 2012 00:36 wei2coolman wrote:
I missed all the matches yesterday, Any recommended games/matches? Btw saw doublelift pentakill. YEEEEEEAAAAAAAA.


TSM vs Blaze was good. and CLG.NA's games were good as well. Fnatic vs TPA is a must watch though.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
December 01 2012 15:50 GMT
#3591
CLG.na the first last and only hope of North america. Its a good day to be a clg.na faithful.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#3592
On December 02 2012 00:44 Sermokala wrote:
Omg neo. Hotbid and locodoco. This seems to be the best interview ever made ever. Make them stay togeather more.


LINK! PLS
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 01 2012 16:04 GMT
#3593
What the fuck? TPA lost to fnatic 0-2??? Damn, I didn't expect that!!! O.o
liftlift > tsm
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#3594
On December 02 2012 00:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 23:09 shinarit wrote:
On December 01 2012 22:49 schmutttt wrote:
CLG vs CLG winners

hotshot pls


After yesterday, you really think clg can beat fnatic?


zzz, sure, why not?
Weren't there plenty of users who laughed when I posted Loco predicting a Fnatic win over TPA?

Chauster say they can handle Fnatic.


That largely depends on which side they get.

/trollface
Hey! How you doin'?
Rkuro
Profile Joined June 2011
United States43 Posts
December 01 2012 16:27 GMT
#3595
GOO CLG!!! To the finals!!! Underestimate the enemy!!! Doubleliftuuuu
There is but one, and I am he
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
December 01 2012 16:33 GMT
#3596
On December 02 2012 00:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
lol, Fnatic free win?
If you think that, you are clueless as fuck. Get out of your mind of the Fnatic with Shushei/Season 1. This is an entirely new team, just old brand name.


Hey I can admit when I was wrong. No need for people to jump down my throat.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 01 2012 17:00 GMT
#3597
On December 02 2012 00:56 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 00:44 Sermokala wrote:
Omg neo. Hotbid and locodoco. This seems to be the best interview ever made ever. Make them stay togeather more.


LINK! PLS

seconded.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#3598
On December 01 2012 23:09 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 22:49 schmutttt wrote:
CLG vs CLG winners

hotshot pls


After yesterday, you really think clg can beat fnatic?


CLGna in the last few months has resorted to cheesy weird shit. Maybe it's because they like to "think outside of the box" or they don't like playing standard or maybe they don't think they can play standard against other teams or maybe they think that innovative strats are the way to play league. I don't know, I'm not on their team. But since they like to do weird shit that teams aren't always ready for it usually falls on to their opponents to adapt to it. More often then not, when they do something weird they tend to get lax and stop pushing advantages. Allowing their opponents to come back. In some occasions their opponents respond properly and shut down the entire strategy.

With a team like that they could definitely beat Fnatic if they run one of their weird comps or strategies. Even straight up, I'm sure bot lane will be in CLGna's favor or at least go even. Mid lane will probably go to Xpeke but jiji rarely loses lane hard enough for the game to be lost. Chauster is pretty solid in the jungle. Top lane's gonna be the only real weak point imo. CLG beating Fnatic will depend entirely on Hotshot playing smart and/or Fnatic responding poorly to cheese strats.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 01 2012 17:25 GMT
#3599
I never rule out CLG.na, obviously they're not the favorites to win the match, but they definitely have a chance.
in doublelift and chauster I believe. need more pentakills.
liftlift > tsm
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
December 01 2012 17:26 GMT
#3600
On December 02 2012 02:23 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 23:09 shinarit wrote:
On December 01 2012 22:49 schmutttt wrote:
CLG vs CLG winners

hotshot pls


After yesterday, you really think clg can beat fnatic?


CLGna in the last few months has resorted to cheesy weird shit. Maybe it's because they like to "think outside of the box" or they don't like playing standard or maybe they don't think they can play standard against other teams or maybe they think that innovative strats are the way to play league. I don't know, I'm not on their team. But since they like to do weird shit that teams aren't always ready for it usually falls on to their opponents to adapt to it. More often then not, when they do something weird they tend to get lax and stop pushing advantages. Allowing their opponents to come back. In some occasions their opponents respond properly and shut down the entire strategy.

With a team like that they could definitely beat Fnatic if they run one of their weird comps or strategies. Even straight up, I'm sure bot lane will be in CLGna's favor or at least go even. Mid lane will probably go to Xpeke but jiji rarely loses lane hard enough for the game to be lost. Chauster is pretty solid in the jungle. Top lane's gonna be the only real weak point imo. CLG beating Fnatic will depend entirely on Hotshot playing smart and/or Fnatic responding poorly to cheese strats.


They've said they've completely dropped cheese until they can play standard with the new roster. Considering they haven't practiced any cheese, I doubt we're going to see anything wacky.
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