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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 30 2012 06:59 GMT
#2041
On November 30 2012 15:36 cLutZ wrote:
Is M5 becoming the TSM of EU, just a few months later?


TSM were never even close to the level of play M5 have shown.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 30 2012 06:59 GMT
#2042
On November 30 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:36 cLutZ wrote:
Is M5 becoming the TSM of EU, just a few months later?


dat overstatement.


exactly what i was thinking
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 30 2012 07:08 GMT
#2043
On November 30 2012 15:59 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:36 cLutZ wrote:
Is M5 becoming the TSM of EU, just a few months later?


dat overstatement.


exactly what i was thinking


They are still performing better than TSM. But, they seem to be...not doing what we would have expected from a team together this long.

IDK. Just felt so sad watching them today.
Freeeeeeedom
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 30 2012 07:36 GMT
#2044
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl
I come in for the scraps
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 30 2012 07:39 GMT
#2045
On November 30 2012 16:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:59 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:36 cLutZ wrote:
Is M5 becoming the TSM of EU, just a few months later?


dat overstatement.


exactly what i was thinking


They are still performing better than TSM. But, they seem to be...not doing what we would have expected from a team together this long.

IDK. Just felt so sad watching them today.


Man, they fucking deserve it. Get overhyped as the best team ever when they have less LAN experience than teams that have been around for half the time they have.

They're good. Comparing them to TSM is wrong imo as they're miles ahead of them. But they might be the most overrated team since 2010 CLG.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 30 2012 07:39 GMT
#2046
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2012 07:43 GMT
#2047
On November 30 2012 16:39 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:08 cLutZ wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:59 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:36 cLutZ wrote:
Is M5 becoming the TSM of EU, just a few months later?


dat overstatement.


exactly what i was thinking


They are still performing better than TSM. But, they seem to be...not doing what we would have expected from a team together this long.

IDK. Just felt so sad watching them today.


Man, they fucking deserve it. Get overhyped as the best team ever when they have less LAN experience than teams that have been around for half the time they have.

They're good. Comparing them to TSM is wrong imo as they're miles ahead of them. But they might be the most overrated team since 2010 CLG.


who?
M5 attended pretty much all the Euro Lans ever since January 2011 except for the recent Dreamhack

which team has more Lan Exp and was founded mid 2011

also I wouldnt call top 4 overrated when even the asian teams said that they consider M5 a super strong, it's just that they are slumping recently and their style got kinda figured out ( lee sin ban 100% now) and they have to think of new stuff to do.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 30 2012 07:44 GMT
#2048
On November 30 2012 16:39 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.


im talking about just picking skarner in general. He is not even close to a champ I would consider right now with money on the line.
I come in for the scraps
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
November 30 2012 07:46 GMT
#2049
On November 30 2012 16:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:39 Scip wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.


im talking about just picking skarner in general. He is not even close to a champ I would consider right now with money on the line.

.... I don't think many people would agree with your assessment of skarner at all
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 30 2012 07:55 GMT
#2050
On November 30 2012 16:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:39 Scip wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.


im talking about just picking skarner in general. He is not even close to a champ I would consider right now with money on the line.

inb4 tpa vs m5 game today.
lilballz gets banned out of mundo, and maokai.
picks skarner.
gets blue and red buff taken from him.
gets 2nd blue taken as well.
still relevant in lategame.

Then I read this comment about skarner being bad.
lol.
liftlift > tsm
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 08:00:05
November 30 2012 07:55 GMT
#2051
oh look who was banned maokai, the champ that does everything that skarner does better hu3

anyways you could have ashe jungle with the comp they had and still win. zyra/orianna/rengar and they go ashe/sona like they can actually initiate on that team
I come in for the scraps
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2012 07:57 GMT
#2052
watching vods right now, TSM not banning Anivia looool
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 08:00 GMT
#2053
On November 30 2012 16:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:39 Scip wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.


im talking about just picking skarner in general. He is not even close to a champ I would consider right now with money on the line.

inb4 tpa vs m5 game today.
lilballz gets banned out of mundo, and maokai.
picks skarner.
gets blue and red buff taken from him.
gets 2nd blue taken as well.
still relevant in lategame.

Then I read this comment about skarner being bad.
lol.

In fairness, Lilballz has also come back and stayed relevant in games where he chain-lost 2 Oracle's as Tiger Udyr. He's just generally good at playing from behind.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 08:04:43
November 30 2012 08:02 GMT
#2054
On November 30 2012 16:57 AsnSensation wrote:
watching vods right now, TSM not banning Anivia looool

Where do you watch that ?

edit: ah, youtube already. Ipl5 <3
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 30 2012 08:03 GMT
#2055
On November 30 2012 16:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:39 Scip wrote:
On November 30 2012 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
when they are still picking skarner, one of the weaker junglers out there, you know they have no fucking idea whats going on right now. TSM is so out of it lawl

If you are talking about clg.eu vs. TSM match where tsm firstpicked Skarner, I think Froggen doesn't play Katarina, so while it revealed the teamcomp that TSM was likely to eventually run clg.eu couldn't really prevent that. It still didn't say anything about the lanes which is the nice thing about FPing a jungler.


im talking about just picking skarner in general. He is not even close to a champ I would consider right now with money on the line.

Thats why many teams have picked him. Always useful champ. Some top teams (e.g. TPA, CLG.EU) love him for a good reason.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 30 2012 08:03 GMT
#2056
On November 30 2012 17:02 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:57 AsnSensation wrote:
watching vods right now, TSM not banning Anivia looool

Where do you watch that ?

boomer hands
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 08:04 GMT
#2057
Misaya and Froggen more or less showing that their reputations on their signature champs are well-earned.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2012 08:04 GMT
#2058
On November 30 2012 17:02 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 16:57 AsnSensation wrote:
watching vods right now, TSM not banning Anivia looool

Where do you watch that ?

edit: ah, youtube already. Ipl5 <3


http://www.lolvods.net/team-solomid-vs-clg-eu-ipl5-wb2-game-1/

rest can be found on that youtube channel
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 08:13:25
November 30 2012 08:05 GMT
#2059
I agree that there are a lot of junglers better than skarner right now and if you're gonna pick him, first picking skarner is nothing short of idiotic. I don't know what TSM was planning with that comp but it was horrible each time they ran it. I think the skarner picks are mosly because people aren't as comfortable with other junglers. Aside from the traditional tourney junglers that people usually pick over skarner. I'd consider cho, hecarim, xin, olaf as stronger champions and junglers. I'd consider cho to be better in every aspect.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 30 2012 08:05 GMT
#2060
http://www.reddit.com/r/LoLeventVoDs/comments/13zoh1/ign_proleague_season_5_ipl5/
http://www.youtube.com/user/DarowPlays/videos?flow=grid&view=1

Both are basically the same thing but the reddit post isn't completely up to date atm.
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