TSM and M5 have tons of LAN exp.

They both seem to have peaked (m5 clearly at a higher level). There is nothing wrong with being the 2012 Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. Maybe I'm wrong and M5 is really Randy Moss on the Oakland Raiders, waiting to unleash a S3 tear.

It seems equally likely, to me, for a team of 5 players, assembled when LoL was basically a baby competitively, to fall off as competition stiffens, as it does they will rise to that level.

lepshis

Lithuania62 Posts

November 30 2012 08:43 GMT

#2064

On November 30 2012 16:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh look who was banned maokai, the champ that does everything that skarner does better hu3

Saying this is really wrong. I would like to see you 1v1 vs skarner as maokai. They are totally different champions.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

November 30 2012 08:44 GMT

#2065

We saw AP yi penta curse and people are saying how skarner sucks. Lmao wtf TL.

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

November 30 2012 08:51 GMT

#2066

I really hope CLG can repeat the world finals and beat WE, without the internet issues of course

Other than that, anyone has a bracket that has the lines that which group position goes where, and which loser from the winner's bracket goes to which loser's bracket spot? How do you draw that one, which are the guidelines? I tried to make one for myself for a previous tournament (dh maybe?), but it was all criss-crossed, i didn't find the logic.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

November 30 2012 09:05 GMT

#2067

On November 30 2012 17:44 BlackPaladin wrote:
We saw AP yi penta curse and people are saying how skarner sucks. Lmao wtf TL.

Lol dont you remember a few months ago when everyone knew that skarner was just a pubstomp champ but completely unviable in pro play because i guess pro's have an immunity to skarner ults or they position so well that no melee champ could ever touch them or something.

DonGrisu

Austria697 Posts

November 30 2012 09:07 GMT

#2068

Any vods Fnatic vs Blaze...??

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

November 30 2012 09:10 GMT

#2069

On November 30 2012 17:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Someone on Reddit says Misaya has yet to lose a single game on TF in a tournament, and he played about 18. OP.

I think it speaks to how afraid people are of it that he's only ever gotten to play it in 18 tournament games.

OutlaW-

Czech Republic5053 Posts

November 30 2012 09:15 GMT

#2070

are they re-streaming right now? I had to go to sleep yestahday. I missed all of these comments, too. :/ Would like to have discussed everything with you guys. This has probably been discussed already but I don't think Rengar is as strong as you think. Both in the M5 TPA game (rengar had 25 cs while olaf 5, also more experience, so he just zoned him forever from the start.) and in the tpa azubu (irelia did have red but that doesn't really help when rengar has full hp to your 20% and 1 more level). I do think that his heal is broken, but knowing Riot they will probably over-nerf Rengar instead of actually knowing what's wrong with their game and taking the easy way out. All the top 5 bruisers right now are broken in some way.

Also note that like Rengar, Vayne won a lot of her games convincingly, becoming fed in the early game. Vayne OP? No, they just played her really well.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

November 30 2012 09:20 GMT

#2071

On November 30 2012 18:05 sob3k wrote:

Show nested quote +

Dunno why people think a champ that has
- massive scaling off of CDR(highest DPS stat for skarner til cap I believe)
- has a spammable shield
- AoE permaslow
- One of the best catch/peel skills in the game
- very strong duelist
- ability to build full tank or carry depending on the flow of the game, and be exceedingly useful either way

could possibly be bad.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

November 30 2012 09:31 GMT

#2072

Skarner isn't that strong of a duelist as far as junglers go: Mundo, Lee Sin and Olaf all beat him 1v1 hands down and many junglers beat him at certain points in time (Nunu for one). His shield isn't all that spammable until you get a lot of CDR which is quite expensive (Shurelyas+Glacial at least). No idea how you calculate what highest DPS stat is (how much does 1% CDR cost? :p). And no, you can't build "carry" depending on the flow of the game. You can build tank every single time and it's good every single time though.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

November 30 2012 09:40 GMT

#2073

On November 30 2012 18:31 Scip wrote:
Skarner isn't that strong of a duelist as far as junglers go: Mundo, Lee Sin and Olaf all beat him 1v1 hands down and many junglers beat him at certain points in time (Nunu for one). His shield isn't all that spammable until you get a lot of CDR which is quite expensive (Shurelyas+Glacial at least). No idea how you calculate what highest DPS stat is (how much does 1% CDR cost? :p). And no, you can't build "carry" depending on the flow of the game. You can build tank every single time and it's good every single time though.

What I meant by building carry(at least in my soloq games when fed) is usually glacial->triforce. Obviously in competitive games you'd buy aegis/shurelya/FH and maybe a wits if you're really, really fed because triforce is almost always unrealistic, despite being very good.

Ota Solgryn

Denmark2011 Posts

November 30 2012 09:54 GMT

#2074

Wow, just watched Fnatic vs Blaze. The aggresion, tempo and map control by Fnatic was some of the best I've seen in a long time. Was like watching a BW game where one player has prepared a build that is deeply designed from first unit and attack to GG, the opponent can't do anything but just watch as everything is countered and prepared for, until utter crushing.

Deleted User 101379

4849 Posts

November 30 2012 09:58 GMT

#2075

I'm watching the VODs at the moment and... well, IPL usually has nice production values but they always mess it up again by trying far too hard to be funny. I really, really want to strangle this shaco announcer.

OutlaW-

Czech Republic5053 Posts

November 30 2012 09:59 GMT

#2076

there is no stream 2 vods, though. which makes me sad

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

November 30 2012 10:01 GMT

#2077

what you looking for outlaw?

under the vod section has pretty much every match, way better than to navigate through a 14 hour vod.

gg forgot to post link
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/IGN_ProLeague_Season_5

OutlaW-

Czech Republic5053 Posts

November 30 2012 10:04 GMT

#2078

Link? The VOD section that I saw in ipl had none of the games uploaded yet. I'm watching the 14 hour vod of the main IPL stream but cant find any vods of the second one. So that's what i'm looking for, games from the second stream.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

November 30 2012 10:08 GMT

#2079

On November 30 2012 19:04 OutlaW- wrote:
Link? The VOD section that I saw in ipl had none of the games uploaded yet. I'm watching the 14 hour vod of the main IPL stream but cant find any vods of the second one. So that's what i'm looking for, games from the second stream.

http://www.reddit.com/r/LoLeventVoDs/comments/13zoh1/ign_proleague_season_5_ipl5/

Or just go to this YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/DarowPlays