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In bold, please post any uStream feedback you have. Include your country and browser
I'll be relaying intel back to Riot.

Much thanks.

- Neo, 11:37 30.08

Day 1 Data
Day 2 Data
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 17:12:53
August 31 2012 17:12 GMT
#1241
Riot's Day 1 Recap Video

Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 31 2012 17:12 GMT
#1242
On September 01 2012 01:09 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:53 Dgiese wrote:
On August 31 2012 22:36 IceSin wrote:
On August 31 2012 22:01 Gorsameth wrote:
The fact that most people's eyes dont even register above ~30-40 fps makes 60 not a big deal at all :p


The stream's 30fps is not synced to your vision's 30fps. So 60fps does make some of a difference.

That's not actually how it works. When you're talking about 30-40 fps there's not a syncing issue between your eyes and the monitor. The amount your eyes register depends on a number of factors, age, SES, etc (all the usual shit), however it's only a small variation. 35 +- 5ish fps covers about 95% of the population. Any perceived difference between your eyes max capacity, and 60fps (e.g. 40 fps and 60 fps) is purely psychological.


This is so incredibly wrong and off topic I'm going to rebut it with just a Carmack tweet.


24hz comes from the film industry. and was the rate that early movies used to run on. the numbers I referenced (around 35, with some variation) actually come from real scientific studies. I'm basing my understanding of the subject off of my bachelors degree and (in progress) masters in psychology. Of which, a significant portion has focused on perception, cognition, and evolutionary psychology, which is to say the physical limits of the eye, how the eye and the brain interact (and the brain's ability to process that information), and how and why those systems are developed.

So when you link to a 'tweet' from a businessman (albeit a successful one), I don't see it as a credible source of information when compared to my textbooks, professors, personal experiments and wider reading, it's actually a little insulting. Admittedly, I'm not linking you to studies so you can make you're own informed decisions, but a tweet from Carmac with no references to any research does not rate as a credible source.

Other than that, looking forward to today's games, and the possibility of an upset!
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 31 2012 17:18 GMT
#1243
I'm really looking forward to today's matches... Rooting for Dig and CLG. I feel like CLG should be able to beat LgN easily if they're on their game. Dig vs. TD should be a bit closer. So excited.
derp
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 31 2012 17:21 GMT
#1244
So I was just wondering if the stream will be runnable on droids and the like. Also wondering bout the data rate, I got work today and want to catch the CLG game.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 31 2012 17:23 GMT
#1245
On September 01 2012 02:21 Celestial wrote:
So I was just wondering if the stream will be runnable on droids and the like. Also wondering bout the data rate, I got work today and want to catch the CLG game.


ustream has an android app IIRC

but any flash browser should work.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 31 2012 17:24 GMT
#1246
I'm sure this has been asked many times but why doesn't USTREAM allow fast fowarding and buffering from any point? Like what kind of 90s program are they running?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 31 2012 17:27 GMT
#1247
Finished the curse interview, I dont know how I should feel about that, imo it's kinda a douchey move to already announce that tsm.evo as a team won't exist anymore with this roster? Also stating the he's the only one on evo that always does well and that he's the reason they dont get completely stomped every game is also kinda questionable since many people would disagree I think. While the individual skills of evo's members is not the best, I think it's simply the lack of practice and synergy ( as a result of not having enough practive) which made Evo drop off so hard after they got picked up by solomid.net.

and Salce is kinda famous for his questionable mindset and lack of drive to practice.

Well in the end it doesnt really matter and we will see what happens to evo in the future and now let's focus on Dig vs TD; Clg vs LgN

30min to go
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
August 31 2012 17:44 GMT
#1248
As I understand it, 24 FPS is about the "minimum" necessary for a slide show (you know, your monitor or a TV) to appear to be showing continuous motion. It's a lower limit, not an upper one. IIRC, people can detect "differences" in FPS much higher than 24.

... And here's a link that talks about it. (It gets into human eye stuff about halfway down.)
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 31 2012 17:56 GMT
#1249
I don't follow LoL drama/gossips alot, but I guess if TSM manages to get good results for NA and Worlds, Regi might not retire... Its probably easier to find someone to manage the team than finding someone who will work in the actual team. Changing players is never a good thing.

Of course, if he's not enjoying the game anymore, then by all means, he should choose whatever is best for him
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
August 31 2012 17:58 GMT
#1250
On September 01 2012 02:44 GeorgeForeman wrote:
As I understand it, 24 FPS is about the "minimum" necessary for a slide show (you know, your monitor or a TV) to appear to be showing continuous motion. It's a lower limit, not an upper one. IIRC, people can detect "differences" in FPS much higher than 24.

... And here's a link that talks about it. (It gets into human eye stuff about halfway down.)


Why do people bother linking sources or arguing about this? Use your own eyes and just ignore the people who say that >30fps makes no difference.
Liszt
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria86 Posts
August 31 2012 17:58 GMT
#1251
Prize pool?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 31 2012 18:02 GMT
#1252
On September 01 2012 02:58 Liszt wrote:
Prize pool?


150k

Top 3 get spots to the world championships and get auto invites into the Season 3 League
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
August 31 2012 18:02 GMT
#1253
I'm in south east United States, running Chrome and getting a Polish? ad.
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The plural of anecdote is not data.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 31 2012 18:04 GMT
#1254
On September 01 2012 03:02 gyth wrote:
I'm in south east United States, running Chrome and getting a Polish? ad.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ustream is AWFUL at browser detection...i get redirected to the korean version of the website...

Firefox/opera don't have these issues.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 31 2012 18:06 GMT
#1255
Day2 Germany Chrome, although it's still the overlay music/sund is running smoothly and there's absolutely no lag, expect it to run perfectly just like yesterday
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 18:07:24
August 31 2012 18:07 GMT
#1256
On September 01 2012 03:04 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 03:02 gyth wrote:
I'm in south east United States, running Chrome and getting a Polish? ad.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ustream is AWFUL at browser detection...i get redirected to the korean version of the website...

Firefox/opera don't have these issues.

idk, stream doesn't even start for me with Opera. It just loads forever. Works with IE though.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 31 2012 18:08 GMT
#1257
Mother of God

[image loading]

@heintzer
Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 18:09:41
August 31 2012 18:08 GMT
#1258
These delays and downtimes......

Yesterday it took them literally 6-7 hours to play 4 fucking games that weren't that long anyway. And there wasn't any worthwhile content neither.

How fucking hard is it to play the damn games on time, produce some decent content in between and not frustrate everyone watching.

EDIT: From @LoLeSports "We had a brief internet outage here at PAX. We're hoping to start as soon as we're sure things are working properly again. "
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 31 2012 18:09 GMT
#1259
On September 01 2012 03:08 Eladir wrote:
These delays and downtimes......

Yesterday it took them literally 6-7 hours to play 4 fucking games that weren't that long anyway. And there wasn't any worthwhile content neither.

How fucking hard is it to play the damn games on time, produce some decent content in between and not frustrate everyone watching.


Internet outage at PAX
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 31 2012 18:09 GMT
#1260
On September 01 2012 03:08 Eladir wrote:
How fucking hard is it to play the damn games on time, produce some decent content in between and not frustrate everyone watching.

Very hard
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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