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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#5901
On September 03 2012 08:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think this tourney proves what i said about skarner..

Picking Skarner INTO Shen is pretty stupid though. Shen is like the strongest anti-midgame aggresion champion in the game. If Shen is banned or you have him on your side then that's different.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 03 2012 00:21 GMT
#5902
What patch are the S2 finals going to be played on?

That could really open up team comps I guess. And Chaox might not get to be 100% Corki.

Also, I'm sick of seeing Champion winrates after tournaments. They will be like Nunu 90% winrate! Corki 90%! Karthus 100%!

Half the time the champs are just like TSM/insert winning team's favorite champs.
Freeeeeeedom
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
September 03 2012 00:22 GMT
#5903
On September 03 2012 09:12 Aukai wrote:
Whats the Travis/Doublelift story? I've never heard it.


I think short version of it is doublelift was homeless before college and looking for a place to stay. So travis contacted him through reddit and picked him up and fed him. Went to his f's to pick up his computer and let him stay with him for free. This was before doublelift got onto CLG and it was really early into the whole LoL scene. Doublelift helped travis set up his podcast and get that going. And ya.. there's alot more I'm probably missing here.

You can see on travis' youtube channel the full story. Basically theyre just two really sweet guys who looked out for eachother before they were known at all.
hi
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
September 03 2012 00:24 GMT
#5904
perfect example of 2xlift and travis bawww
aw
skip to the 4:38 mark
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 03 2012 00:32 GMT
#5905
On September 03 2012 09:17 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think this tourney proves what i said about skarner..

Picking Skarner INTO Shen is pretty stupid though. Shen is like the strongest anti-midgame aggresion champion in the game. If Shen is banned or you have him on your side then that's different.


thats not the direct cause of why skarner got screwed over early though, it's the skarner + ryze combo vs shyv + morg, skarner is more vulnerable to counterjungling than most and with a morg who has blue lv1 and just keeps pushing he cant contest anything.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#5906
The final was so disappointing. Dig had an inferiority complex against TSM or something.

Also I guess scarra never studied during college. Dig had PLENTY of time to prepare and at the end they only managed to pull off one special strategy (and had to use it twice, only to be crushed by TSM)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#5907
On September 03 2012 09:12 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:53 Mufaa wrote:
I can't stand TSM. They definitely deserved to win but they're so unappreciative and cocky it makes it impossible for me to want them to do well. Although I guess that's an issue with the league of legends community as a whole.


I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, they don't realize they are setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, and this is most likely why none of the other competitive games (SC2, D2) take us seriously.


Ignoring the fact that they take us seriously enough to dislike us and have major community figures take potshots at us, it should be noted that some light trash talking(and that's what it is btw) is no more bad then any others and is about the same as Sc2's in manner for the most part. Which is leagues above most other scenes. Please take a closer look at the FPS, Dota, and the fighting.

While League should hold itself to a high standard nothing has really been overtly offensive and when it does happen it tends to be frowned on.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 03 2012 00:39 GMT
#5908
I've always thought that League was played by frat boys/university students, which is one of the reasons why a team like TSM is so popular.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#5909
...TSM needs to adjust its personality a little... i mean chaox and xpecial seem nice

but in the finals they looked like they outclassed dig
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 03 2012 00:48 GMT
#5910
On September 03 2012 09:39 Abenson wrote:
I've always thought that League was played by frat boys/university students, which is one of the reasons why a team like TSM is so popular.

... Because TOO seems like a frat guy?
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 03 2012 01:09 GMT
#5911
...TSM is popular because it's a self made team supported by a rabid fanbase who watched and helped it build from something small to being the League monolith that it is today.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#5912
All the TSM hate, lol. Their public cockiness is 9/10ths an act for the fans. The dumb 2-0 stuff is just playing to the crowd. Taking it any farther than that is just ignoring the obvious. Congrats to TSM for continuing their NA dominance. They have a real shot at the world championships.

People keep saying "this tourney shows that EU teams are better than NA teams". What that means is M5 and CLG.EU are better than NA teams. Fnatic and SK did not show us the most amazing games either (except SK vs CLG.EU). TSM clearly belongs on this stage. Now they need to prepare for M5 and Blaze and then hope they can handle their business against the rest.

I don't think they're a favorite by any stretch of the imagination, but to think they have little or no chance is silly. This team has really improved their coordination and communication. It's hard to believe how little time it has been since their constant public bickering with TRM.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
September 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#5913
On September 03 2012 09:35 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 09:12 Mondeezy wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:53 Mufaa wrote:
I can't stand TSM. They definitely deserved to win but they're so unappreciative and cocky it makes it impossible for me to want them to do well. Although I guess that's an issue with the league of legends community as a whole.


I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, they don't realize they are setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, and this is most likely why none of the other competitive games (SC2, D2) take us seriously.


Ignoring the fact that they take us seriously enough to dislike us and have major community figures take potshots at us, it should be noted that some light trash talking(and that's what it is btw) is no more bad then any others and is about the same as Sc2's in manner for the most part. Which is leagues above most other scenes. Please take a closer look at the FPS, Dota, and the fighting.

While League should hold itself to a high standard nothing has really been overtly offensive and when it does happen it tends to be frowned on.


I guess it's just me then, but TSM comes off as immature and douchey - two traits that shouldn't shine on a championship team. When I watch them stream and say baylife or downtalk their team every other sentence, it just reinforces the idea in my head that these guys shouldn't be an icon for the community. If you look at the recent UFC event, even though Sonnen talked heaps of shit to Silva, Silva dominated him, then shook his hand after the match and showed him respect. That, in my opinion, is how a champion should behave. Granted, it's not only TSM that does this, but they seem to be the poster boys for that type of attitude, and unfortunately a lot of the community imitates this sort of behavior.

But hey, maybe I'm just a TSM hater, I don't know. I just wish they would set a better example so that E-sports could be taken a bit more seriously.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:19:55
September 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#5914
When I started LoL I knew exactly who Reginald, TheOddOne, Chaox, Xpecial, TheRainMan and Dyrus were. They were in a team-house, released a lot of fun content and all had distinct personalities.

After following pro-LoL for over a year now TSM are still one of the only 3 teams I can recognise and know everyone on sight (the other 2 being the 2 CLG's).

TSM deserves their popularity through their charisma and their work in the community compared to most other pro-teams.

EDIT: still a regi-hater though. just pro-TSM.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
bakarofl
Profile Joined December 2011
49 Posts
September 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#5915
why is the video game community so over sensitive? Or is it just teamliquid that's like this. I don't really go to any other forums or reddit or anything
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 03 2012 01:24 GMT
#5916
On September 03 2012 10:16 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 09:35 Parnage wrote:
On September 03 2012 09:12 Mondeezy wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:53 Mufaa wrote:
I can't stand TSM. They definitely deserved to win but they're so unappreciative and cocky it makes it impossible for me to want them to do well. Although I guess that's an issue with the league of legends community as a whole.


I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, they don't realize they are setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, and this is most likely why none of the other competitive games (SC2, D2) take us seriously.


Ignoring the fact that they take us seriously enough to dislike us and have major community figures take potshots at us, it should be noted that some light trash talking(and that's what it is btw) is no more bad then any others and is about the same as Sc2's in manner for the most part. Which is leagues above most other scenes. Please take a closer look at the FPS, Dota, and the fighting.

While League should hold itself to a high standard nothing has really been overtly offensive and when it does happen it tends to be frowned on.


I guess it's just me then, but TSM comes off as immature and douchey - two traits that shouldn't shine on a championship team. When I watch them stream and say baylife or downtalk their team every other sentence, it just reinforces the idea in my head that these guys shouldn't be an icon for the community. If you look at the recent UFC event, even though Sonnen talked heaps of shit to Silva, Silva dominated him, then shook his hand after the match and showed him respect. That, in my opinion, is how a champion should behave. Granted, it's not only TSM that does this, but they seem to be the poster boys for that type of attitude, and unfortunately a lot of the community imitates this sort of behavior.

But hey, maybe I'm just a TSM hater, I don't know. I just wish they would set a better example so that E-sports could be taken a bit more seriously.

I mean, I generally agree, but I don't think they talk any more/less shit than any other team. They just happen to be the only ones that win anything in NA.

And I get where people can say Regi comes off as a douche, and apparently TONS of people have issues with Dyrus that just escape me, but I don't get a "douchebag" vibe from any of the other members. Chaox is cocky, but show me an athlete pro athlete who's not.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 03 2012 01:29 GMT
#5917
Also, we're ragging on TSM for being immature and douchey... but M5 won the EU regional. Uhh....
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 03 2012 01:31 GMT
#5918
tsm is good you guys sux
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
September 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#5919
I honestly don't understand why people care about how immature and douchey teams are. All that should matter is how well these teams play, and how well they work together.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:37:12
September 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#5920
On September 03 2012 10:24 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 10:16 Mondeezy wrote:
On September 03 2012 09:35 Parnage wrote:
On September 03 2012 09:12 Mondeezy wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:53 Mufaa wrote:
I can't stand TSM. They definitely deserved to win but they're so unappreciative and cocky it makes it impossible for me to want them to do well. Although I guess that's an issue with the league of legends community as a whole.


I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, they don't realize they are setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, and this is most likely why none of the other competitive games (SC2, D2) take us seriously.


Ignoring the fact that they take us seriously enough to dislike us and have major community figures take potshots at us, it should be noted that some light trash talking(and that's what it is btw) is no more bad then any others and is about the same as Sc2's in manner for the most part. Which is leagues above most other scenes. Please take a closer look at the FPS, Dota, and the fighting.

While League should hold itself to a high standard nothing has really been overtly offensive and when it does happen it tends to be frowned on.


I guess it's just me then, but TSM comes off as immature and douchey - two traits that shouldn't shine on a championship team. When I watch them stream and say baylife or downtalk their team every other sentence, it just reinforces the idea in my head that these guys shouldn't be an icon for the community. If you look at the recent UFC event, even though Sonnen talked heaps of shit to Silva, Silva dominated him, then shook his hand after the match and showed him respect. That, in my opinion, is how a champion should behave. Granted, it's not only TSM that does this, but they seem to be the poster boys for that type of attitude, and unfortunately a lot of the community imitates this sort of behavior.

But hey, maybe I'm just a TSM hater, I don't know. I just wish they would set a better example so that E-sports could be taken a bit more seriously.

I mean, I generally agree, but I don't think they talk any more/less shit than any other team. They just happen to be the only ones that win anything in NA.

And I get where people can say Regi comes off as a douche, and apparently TONS of people have issues with Dyrus that just escape me, but I don't get a "douchebag" vibe from any of the other members. Chaox is cocky, but show me an athlete pro athlete who's not.


Yeah, you're right. I suppose we see it the most from them is because they're always in the spotlight, haha.

And yes, Regi is the person I dislike with a passion. Dyrus just seems like he likes to have fun, but I can see where it gets annoying. Chaoxpecial is cool.

Edit : @Scarper - There's a reason professional sports teams are held to a certain standard, and not just judged by "how well they play". Sponsors, image, etc..
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