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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
January 31 2012 19:43 GMT
#601
I've been thinking about how to play Urgot as a support lately, since his toolkit is really good as a tanky support role. His autoattacks reduces enemy damage output, he has a slow, a percentage armor shred, and a good initiation with a suppresion and defense buffs. My first thought was to just support the AD carry to be more of a force, but, the biggest problem is laning. But the way M5 ran Urgot is really interesting.

What do you guys think about running an AD bruiser jungle and top with tanky Urgot bot? Bruiser meta comeback?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 31 2012 19:43 GMT
#602
Well Urgot had GA, FH, and no damage items. Shyvana doesn't really need to build damage to inflict them, since she just has to dish out an all-AoE kit in dragon form while simply being there. Not carry levels w/o damage built, but still a lot, and a lot more than Urgot.

What really made me facepalm though are the Sona ults: all CLG jumping on one guy (sometimes even her)? BAM, four of them ulted. After seeing them playing so well against Galio, such naiveté about Sona is really disappointing. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#603
75k viewers for a non-Riot promoted tournament?

Pretty insane

and even more insane given what time it is...
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
January 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#604
On February 01 2012 04:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
75k viewers for a non-Riot promoted tournament?

Pretty insane

and even more insane given what time it is...


Almost primetime in europe!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 31 2012 19:45 GMT
#605
That's actually something we overlooked, Urgot was all over Kog'maw every team fight. As a result Kog'maw's damage was reduced by 15% all the time. Between that and Kog'maw's item build he simply wasn't doing damage.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Defilez
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway94 Posts
January 31 2012 19:46 GMT
#606
Running tanky urgot was made posible by Dariens shayvana. They wouldn't have the damage needed without her. I think CLG played poor when they were focusing Urgot, should've switched upon Twisted Fate or Shayvana. Even if shayvana was tanky, I do think it would prevent alot of damage.
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
January 31 2012 19:47 GMT
#607
On February 01 2012 04:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Also important to note:

Janna is the worst support to bring when the enemy has a shyvana. Her peel just isnt effective against shyvana.


I don't understand - which support would be more useful against a Shyvana? I can't think of any support other than Alistar that has comparable peel, and I don't see what else would have helped more. I'm also confused about how ineffective Janna's peel was - like I saw that it was hardly doing anything, but don't understand why Shyvana was so unaffected (is it just her AoE and increased movement speed?).
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 31 2012 19:47 GMT
#608
Urgot's passive can put some pretty serious hurting on 2 DPS on the enemy team at the same time, and both Ahri and Kog'maw are a lot less threatening doing 15% less damage. Urgot as an offtank makes sense in that context, because his passive is stupidly strong if you're not reliant on his damage.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 31 2012 19:50 GMT
#609
So I'm guessing CLG is going to ban Shyvana this time...
derp
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
January 31 2012 19:50 GMT
#610
Urgot passive + Maokai ult + FH sup enemy AD?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 31 2012 19:50 GMT
#611
Thank you, holy shit. Now I'm really interested in m5's backup jungler/top lane.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 31 2012 19:50 GMT
#612
On February 01 2012 04:44 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
75k viewers for a non-Riot promoted tournament?

Pretty insane

and even more insane given what time it is...


Almost primetime in europe!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure LoL is a lot larger in EU than NA.
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Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
January 31 2012 19:51 GMT
#613
Finally a shyvana ban, also clg respecting alex's ryze.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 31 2012 19:53 GMT
#614
CLG getting taric, surprisingly. >_>
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 31 2012 19:53 GMT
#615
Why pick Taric over Gangplank, CLG?
My modesty is awesome.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 19:54:30
January 31 2012 19:53 GMT
#616
Ad kennen incoming, also alex gets last pick ap, to counter pick what he wants!!!!
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 31 2012 19:54 GMT
#617
AD kennen doesnt give a shit about taric/sivir
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 31 2012 19:54 GMT
#618
On February 01 2012 04:47 danana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Also important to note:

Janna is the worst support to bring when the enemy has a shyvana. Her peel just isnt effective against shyvana.


I don't understand - which support would be more useful against a Shyvana? I can't think of any support other than Alistar that has comparable peel, and I don't see what else would have helped more. I'm also confused about how ineffective Janna's peel was - like I saw that it was hardly doing anything, but don't understand why Shyvana was so unaffected (is it just her AoE and increased movement speed?).

You need hard cc. The knockup is the only useful thing in her kit for shyvana. shyv w and ult let her ignore slows and knockbacks, which is the rest of janna's kit.

Healers like sona and soraka are good- ones that specialize in keeping the divee alive rather than try to get rid of the shyvana.

The other way to go (which I like better) is go more offensive on her- leona and blitz- chars that can lock down shyvana and prevent her from doing what she wants to do.


But basically the biggest way to make shyvana a non factor is just have your damage outscale her tank. If you do that, you win the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
January 31 2012 19:55 GMT
#619
AD Kennen again. AD Kennen is so boring to watch IMO. So much damage and utility as AP.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 31 2012 19:56 GMT
#620
Kennen should actually be really good against Taric/Sivir, because of his defensive stun potential and his E giving bonus armor/MR.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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