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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 07:50:20
December 09 2011 07:42 GMT
#681
On December 09 2011 16:37 R04R wrote:
Banshee's is such a crucial item against LB along with the threat of the rest of their team. QSS isn't going to save you from that burst. Although that BC is pretty bad


I was talking about the retarded banshees on Leblanc

If their entire team wasn't fucking fed, nothing stops rammus from flash powerball taunting her. Since powerball breaks the veil.

Also, Banshees is easily pokeddown by leblanc w q. and her ult is 10-15 second cd at max level with.blue, banshee is always 45. It doesn't counter anything, only against scrubs who don't understand the concept of breaking banshees will be hindered by it.

EDIT: think about it, what stops leblanc from w q'ing someone, then w'ing back. there's no way you can catch her since w is low cd with blue and if she needs she can double jump. my point is basically, leblanc cannot get caught, leblanc ult is roughly 15 seconds CD at max rank, it's better to just get the qss since it's half the gold, and is better in so many ways, since it can't be poked down. Cleansing the silence so you can E+flash out will help you more in 1v1 situations as well. Otherwise Leblanc will w, q ,r , e perma silence you and probably 1 shot you even if your banshees blocks the jump.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
December 09 2011 07:43 GMT
#682
Please link me the stream :>
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 09 2011 07:46 GMT
#683
On December 09 2011 16:42 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 16:37 R04R wrote:
Banshee's is such a crucial item against LB along with the threat of the rest of their team. QSS isn't going to save you from that burst. Although that BC is pretty bad


I was talking about the retarded banshees on Leblanc

If their entire team wasn't fucking fed, nothing stops rammus from flash powerball taunting her. Since powerball breaks the veil.

Also, Banshees is easily pokeddown by leblanc w q. and her ult is 10-15 second cd at max level with.blue, banshee is always 45. It doesn't counter anything, only against scrubs who don't understand the concept of breaking banshees will be hindered by it.



Because LB wouldnt jump away, giving her team free hits on the now loose and out of position rammus....
KCCO!
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 09 2011 07:52 GMT
#684
On December 09 2011 16:46 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 16:42 tobi9999 wrote:
On December 09 2011 16:37 R04R wrote:
Banshee's is such a crucial item against LB along with the threat of the rest of their team. QSS isn't going to save you from that burst. Although that BC is pretty bad


I was talking about the retarded banshees on Leblanc

If their entire team wasn't fucking fed, nothing stops rammus from flash powerball taunting her. Since powerball breaks the veil.

Also, Banshees is easily pokeddown by leblanc w q. and her ult is 10-15 second cd at max level with.blue, banshee is always 45. It doesn't counter anything, only against scrubs who don't understand the concept of breaking banshees will be hindered by it.



Because LB wouldnt jump away, giving her team free hits on the now loose and out of position rammus....


if you waste cooldowns on rammus while their team is within flash range, then you lose the teamfight. As showcased by MY in that game, losing 5 for 1 (i think) because rammus jumped onto LB despite them being 15k gold ahead
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 09 2011 07:59 GMT
#685
If you gib rammus without using every single cd then you're gonna win the teamfight. Don't know if rammus was fed or not though. If it's a 4v5 and you can keep your carry alive you should win 90% of the time.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 08:13:11
December 09 2011 08:12 GMT
#686
On December 09 2011 16:42 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 16:37 R04R wrote:
Banshee's is such a crucial item against LB along with the threat of the rest of their team. QSS isn't going to save you from that burst. Although that BC is pretty bad


I was talking about the retarded banshees on Leblanc

If their entire team wasn't fucking fed, nothing stops rammus from flash powerball taunting her. Since powerball breaks the veil.

Also, Banshees is easily pokeddown by leblanc w q. and her ult is 10-15 second cd at max level with.blue, banshee is always 45. It doesn't counter anything, only against scrubs who don't understand the concept of breaking banshees will be hindered by it.

EDIT: think about it, what stops leblanc from w q'ing someone, then w'ing back. there's no way you can catch her since w is low cd with blue and if she needs she can double jump. my point is basically, leblanc cannot get caught, leblanc ult is roughly 15 seconds CD at max rank, it's better to just get the qss since it's half the gold, and is better in so many ways, since it can't be poked down. Cleansing the silence so you can E+flash out will help you more in 1v1 situations as well. Otherwise Leblanc will w, q ,r , e perma silence you and probably 1 shot you even if your banshees blocks the jump.


No, because the AD carry should never be in range of LeBlanc's W+Q combo and the rammus should be in front to taunt her if she does come forward.

QSS is completely useless against a LeBlanc because her combo will instantly kill you if she gets it off, even if you cleanse the silence and flash away. Veil is much more useful as,IF she does get close enough to target you, you block her Q AND silence (she would have to get her E after ult for extra damage and the silence, which is extremely hard in a messy teamfight situation).
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 09 2011 08:14 GMT
#687
Conclusion here is that its just best to ban LB alltogether
KCCO!
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
December 09 2011 08:27 GMT
#688
The person referring to QSS vs BV was on LB (not against). Rammus taunt was messing her up big time even with BV. QSS would have been 100 times better in LB situation.
JewJewBees
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
December 09 2011 08:51 GMT
#689
why do i see best on the wcg stream
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
December 09 2011 10:29 GMT
#690
this probly been asked alot is there anywhere to watch replays
starcraft is chess at warp speed
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 09 2011 10:33 GMT
#691
On December 09 2011 19:29 drivec wrote:
this probly been asked alot is there anywhere to watch replays



Thats a negatory. WCG is horrible with VODs n replays
KCCO!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 09 2011 11:13 GMT
#692
so day3 gonna be like

Flash vs Jerome NEGGRET
CDE vs Dignitas
IG vs CLG
EDG vsGameburg
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21803 Posts
December 09 2011 12:33 GMT
#693
So if im reacting the schedule times right there going to show only 2 of the 4 quater finals and only 1 of the 2 semi finals and there all bo1?

They have 2.5 hours planned for lol quarters and 1.5 for the semi.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
December 09 2011 13:27 GMT
#694
On December 09 2011 19:29 drivec wrote:
this probly been asked alot is there anywhere to watch replays


http://www.own3d.tv/WCG#/watch/327736
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 13:47:24
December 09 2011 13:47 GMT
#695
Go to about 1:30 for real amusement

http://www.own3d.tv/WCG#/watch/327656
twitch.tv/cratonz
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
December 09 2011 14:27 GMT
#696
WCG so useless, haven't actually labelled the previously played games. Now I get to sit through 30 seconds of adverts for every likely looking game just to see who the hell is playing
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 09 2011 14:57 GMT
#697
On December 09 2011 22:47 Craton wrote:
Go to about 1:30 for real amusement

http://www.own3d.tv/WCG#/watch/327656


oh. my. god.

WHY DID I NOT WATCH THIS ON KOREAN STREAM
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 15:01:30
December 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#698
On December 09 2011 23:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 22:47 Craton wrote:
Go to about 1:30 for real amusement

http://www.own3d.tv/WCG#/watch/327656


oh. my. god.

WHY DID I NOT WATCH THIS ON KOREAN STREAM


Because you didn't know better. Now you know, and your mistake shall never be repeated.

To quote a friend of mine: "Man, this is way better. I don't have any idea what they're saying, but they're excited as fuck about it."
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IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
December 09 2011 15:05 GMT
#699
Yeah watching that game at the moment and I had nerd chills from the outcome of that gank coupled with the korean commentators. Who needs boring english commentators. Screaming koreans > understanding!
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 09 2011 15:22 GMT
#700
On December 09 2011 20:13 emucxg wrote:
so day3 gonna be like

Flash vs Jerome NEGGRET
CDE vs Dignitas
IG vs CLG
EDG vsGameburg


WCG ruining my predictions by ensuring that no matter what two of the teams I guessed to place in top 4 can't. Still, the CDE vs. Dignitas and iG vs. CLG games should be really close.
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