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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
October 16 2011 17:25 GMT
#2841
Also!

Nyph definitely should win MVP. The guy is literally the best support player in the world and he makes SK work.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 17:25 GMT
#2842
Who has fp? If CLG doesnt ban or pick Kog I am going to personally slap them
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
October 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#2843
Is there a reason I never see thornmail, in pro games? I figure it would be useful against kog or no?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 17:31:57
October 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#2844
Sypher Bans: Udyr, HotShotNidaleeGeeeGeeee, Galio
CLG Bans: Urgot, CassiOPeia, Koggles

Sypher Picks: Janna, Trist, Nocturne, Nasus, Kassadin
CLG Picks: Cait, Sona, Rammus Cho'Gath, Brand

Kass running Cleanse, Nasus with Flash+TP, Ignite on Trist. No Exhaust for Sypher.
Caitlyn has Exhaust. Tele+Flash on Cho.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#2845
On October 17 2011 02:25 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 02:22 dnastyx wrote:
On October 17 2011 02:20 Rayansaki wrote:
On October 17 2011 02:18 Woony wrote:
On October 17 2011 02:17 Rayansaki wrote:
This game was crazy, one of the most balanced and well played I've seen in a long time.


Well played? Not so shure, first CLG choked then Sypher choked then CLG choked then Sypher choked and gg


CLG didn't choke. Bigfat was underfarmed compared to kog so they could never engage them 5v5, even with baron. The only real choke all game was when sypher got too eager when they finally had a break after 20+ minutes of base defense, fighting clg with baron under the nexus turrets.


Actually, Kog lost the game for them by hitting turrets instead of 3-shotting all of CLG.


I doubt kog hitting turrets for 2 seconds lost the game by itself. It was a 5v5, clg had baron and 2 nexus turrets. But like I said, that's the only real choke they had, they got too eager in the end because they had an advantage for the longest time in their 5v5 fights.


2 seconds? Kog hit only those turrets in the last fight, he took down 1 and kept autoing the 2nd while being killed.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#2846
As someone wrote, all top turrets were up also, Sypher could push these 3 and get all the gold in a short time.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#2847
y they ban urgot
:)
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#2848
On October 17 2011 02:26 Weaponx3 wrote:
Is there a reason I never see thornmail, in pro games? I figure it would be useful against kog or no?


What's the point? He can just lifesteal back all the damage. Not really useful, you need to focus him.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#2849
On October 17 2011 02:26 Weaponx3 wrote:
Is there a reason I never see thornmail, in pro games? I figure it would be useful against kog or no?

Kog's E deals magic damage...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#2850
On October 17 2011 02:26 -Zoda- wrote:
As someone wrote, all top turrets were up also, Sypher could push these 3 and get all the gold in a short time.


Why would they spend time getting gold they can't use while hotshot kills their base?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#2851
On October 17 2011 02:26 -Zoda- wrote:
As someone wrote, all top turrets were up also, Sypher could push these 3 and get all the gold in a short time.

Everyone pretty much had maxed 6 item builds haha. The main reason for pushing top would be for the map control and presence. Maybe Leona could have used 500g, but not much.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#2852
On October 17 2011 02:24 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 02:23 Misder wrote:
On October 17 2011 02:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Really dislike the Leona picks pretty everytime she comes out. I like her a lot but she needs items to be usefull and in these tournaments supports really dont get that.
Also no one gets atleast a sheen on her which really adds to her dmg and makes her usefull besides her stuns.

Leona doesn't need farm to be useful at all (not counting aura items, but supports all get that at about the same time anyways). Three stuns and a 80% slow plus her passive is super useful.


She isnt going to get to do that without a couple of tank items. As you could see during the midgame leona had a philo and hog and couldnt actualy dive into CLG with her dash to stun since she got 2 shotted by almost everyone.


Only nid was actually outputting dmg on leona midgame, and nid was doing that to everyone. Leona's job shouldn't be intiating in that comp cause gang ult and amumu ult is better. Leona should be protecting kogmaw, which she doesn't need items for.
Whaaaa?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 16 2011 17:29 GMT
#2853
On October 17 2011 02:26 -Zoda- wrote:
As someone wrote, all top turrets were up also, Sypher could push these 3 and get all the gold in a short time.


They couldnt push top together, because that would just be asking HSGG to backdoor their bot inhib and nexus, and they couldnt split up to push, that would just be suicide. Besides, 100 gold was basically nothing at this point.
Writer:o
Emnel
Profile Joined October 2011
Greece384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 17:31:29
October 16 2011 17:31 GMT
#2854
Nice - No Nida, but Rammus, Kass, Trist and Nasus. Looks like intresting game already.
Nasus feeds as he pleases.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
October 16 2011 17:32 GMT
#2855
On October 17 2011 02:27 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 02:26 Weaponx3 wrote:
Is there a reason I never see thornmail, in pro games? I figure it would be useful against kog or no?

Kog's E deals magic damage...

Who cares about Kog's E? It's his W that does the work with R for cleaning up.
twitch.tv/cratonz
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 16 2011 17:35 GMT
#2856
On October 17 2011 02:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 02:27 -Zoda- wrote:
On October 17 2011 02:26 Weaponx3 wrote:
Is there a reason I never see thornmail, in pro games? I figure it would be useful against kog or no?

Kog's E deals magic damage...

Who cares about Kog's E? It's his W that does the work with R for cleaning up.

Yeah my mistake. It's W not E.
Anyway, no thornnail.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 16 2011 17:35 GMT
#2857
Chauster about to run shit with Brand.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
October 16 2011 17:35 GMT
#2858
Sypher - Janna, Tristana, Noct, Nasus and Kass
CLG - Cait, Snoa, Rammus, ChoNoms, Brand

bans Udyr Nid Galio ; Urgot Cass Kog


I'm giving the advantage to CLG because HSGG and Saint are really good at blocking their carries from getting attacked. Be interesting to see.#

Chauster playing Mage though.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#2859
I think Rammus is a good pick to stop Nasus from farming
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#2860
Cait opening Boots+3. Does that mean Cait v Kass lane, Cho 1v2 bot? I have no idea.

Brand is top.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
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