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[Patch 11.24] Debonair Skin Set General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
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Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-09 13:10:01
December 08 2021 12:10 GMT
#1
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Patch 11.24: Live on Dec. 10, 2021

Team Fight Tactics Patch 11.24 Live on Dec. 10, 2021

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Patch 11.23 Preseason Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.21 Dragon Skin Line General Discussion
Patch 11.20 Betwitching Skins General Discussion
Patch 11.19 Vex Champion Release General Discussion
Patch 11.18 Worlds Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.17 Pentakill Returns
Patch 11.16 Coven & Old Gods General Discussion
Patch 11.15 Akshan Release General Discussion
Patch 11.12 Dr. Mundo Rework General Discussion
Patch 11.10 Arcana Skins General Discussion
Patch 11.8/9 Gwen Release General Discussion
Patch 11.7 Space Groove General Discussion
Patch 11.6 Battle Academia General Discussion
Patch 11.5 The Bees Knees General Discussion
Patch 11.4 Jungle Gets Nerfed (Again) General Discussion
Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion]Patch 11.3 Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion
Patch 11.2 Viego Release General Discussion
Patch 11.1 New Season New Me
Patch 10.24 Cosmic Skin line General Discussion
Patch 10.23 Preseason Item Update General Discussion
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8797 Posts
December 09 2021 06:16 GMT
#2
wrong patch link
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
December 09 2021 13:10 GMT
#3
On December 09 2021 15:16 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wrong patch link


Fixed!
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ANnagant
Profile Joined December 2021
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2021-12-17 08:12:17
December 17 2021 08:11 GMT
#4
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 18 2021 17:24 GMT
#5
On one hand I like that ADC is strong atm, and on the other it feels like bs because the main reason is all the gimmicky builds that abuse items from other roles.

- Muramana/Hydra/Luden Corki (it's mid but gets an honorable mention)
- Lethality Q max Xayah
- Crown/Luden Kai'Sa so you can 3 shot with W
- Lethality Cait seems to be fairly viable if you can land traps and net.

It all looks like cheese at first, but they scale pretty well (especially that Kai'Sa build).
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4134 Posts
December 19 2021 04:15 GMT
#6
just watched arcane and wondered if its canon or not? and the show was so good that knowing the characters from league didnt bring any benefit imo.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4134 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-19 04:22:42
December 19 2021 04:21 GMT
#7
On December 19 2021 02:24 DarkCore wrote:
On one hand I like that ADC is strong atm, and on the other it feels like bs because the main reason is all the gimmicky builds that abuse items from other roles.

- Muramana/Hydra/Luden Corki (it's mid but gets an honorable mention)
- Lethality Q max Xayah
- Crown/Luden Kai'Sa so you can 3 shot with W
- Lethality Cait seems to be fairly viable if you can land traps and net.

It all looks like cheese at first, but they scale pretty well (especially that Kai'Sa build).

adc were never weak imo, they just dont have a lot of soloQ agency, the class is for organized play. I personally think that theys should be balanced/designed to be even more useless early but to become the strongest with a margin late, late game should be about the adcs, so there is a clear trade off
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
December 19 2021 05:48 GMT
#8
On December 19 2021 13:15 M2 wrote:
just watched arcane and wondered if its canon or not? and the show was so good that knowing the characters from league didnt bring any benefit imo.


I believe there are revisions of the lore but its overall canon.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-19 16:20:50
December 19 2021 16:19 GMT
#9
On December 19 2021 02:24 DarkCore wrote:
On one hand I like that ADC is strong atm, and on the other it feels like bs because the main reason is all the gimmicky builds that abuse items from other roles.

- Muramana/Hydra/Luden Corki (it's mid but gets an honorable mention)
- Lethality Q max Xayah
- Crown/Luden Kai'Sa so you can 3 shot with W
- Lethality Cait seems to be fairly viable if you can land traps and net.

It all looks like cheese at first, but they scale pretty well (especially that Kai'Sa build).

I dont think any of those builds would classify the champion as an ADC, they are simply champions with the options to build into a completely different playstyle than ADC. ADCs for me are champions that do the vast majority of their damage from autos.

I think one part of why ADC feel weaker than in the old days is how much weaker enchanters have become unless you OTP an enchanter you are almost better off picking something like Leona or Alistar. Everyone bitch and moan when enchanters are strong, ironically this include the ADCs that should smack their lips and go hell yeah because of how much synergy their is between their kits 50% of an enchanters gold more or less is gold in an ADCs pocket.

Likewise with tanks. The bulkier a frontline the more important and thus impactful the DPS of an ADC are.

On December 19 2021 13:15 M2 wrote:
just watched arcane and wondered if its canon or not? and the show was so good that knowing the characters from league didnt bring any benefit imo.

I really hope it become canon because it's a million times better than the current and open the doors to much more interesting future events.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 20 2021 21:31 GMT
#10
On December 20 2021 01:19 Jek wrote:
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On December 19 2021 02:24 DarkCore wrote:
On one hand I like that ADC is strong atm, and on the other it feels like bs because the main reason is all the gimmicky builds that abuse items from other roles.

- Muramana/Hydra/Luden Corki (it's mid but gets an honorable mention)
- Lethality Q max Xayah
- Crown/Luden Kai'Sa so you can 3 shot with W
- Lethality Cait seems to be fairly viable if you can land traps and net.

It all looks like cheese at first, but they scale pretty well (especially that Kai'Sa build).

I dont think any of those builds would classify the champion as an ADC, they are simply champions with the options to build into a completely different playstyle than ADC. ADCs for me are champions that do the vast majority of their damage from autos.

I think one part of why ADC feel weaker than in the old days is how much weaker enchanters have become unless you OTP an enchanter you are almost better off picking something like Leona or Alistar. Everyone bitch and moan when enchanters are strong, ironically this include the ADCs that should smack their lips and go hell yeah because of how much synergy their is between their kits 50% of an enchanters gold more or less is gold in an ADCs pocket.

Likewise with tanks. The bulkier a frontline the more important and thus impactful the DPS of an ADC are.

Show nested quote +
On December 19 2021 13:15 M2 wrote:
just watched arcane and wondered if its canon or not? and the show was so good that knowing the characters from league didnt bring any benefit imo.

I really hope it become canon because it's a million times better than the current and open the doors to much more interesting future events.


Yeah, that's why I called them gimmicky, they are ADC but not really. Still AA based, but the big 'winning' plays are not. I do like the agency it gives ADC though, you can deal damage from far away without caring that your support will leave you out to dry.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8797 Posts
December 21 2021 01:42 GMT
#11
i dont understand why riot just doesnt scale down damage in the entire game.
not that difficult to reduce an item giving 80 ap to 60 for example. either that or you tweak the passive stats items have but knowing riot theyre too stupid to do that so just nerf base numbers. at least then you dont have ridiculous shit like people getting 1 shot by 1 skill rather than a full combo.
jessicamoorejm90
Profile Joined December 2021
United States2 Posts
December 21 2021 06:13 GMT
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