[Patch 11.8/9] Gwen Release General Discussion - Page 2

Bulgaria4103 Posts

May 06 2021 06:19 GMT

#21

regarding viego, historically when junglers were capable of being as good or even better in lane, they were always an issue. Happening with Lee sin atm too

Fildun

Netherlands4122 Posts

May 06 2021 07:17 GMT

#22

I haven't seen a Gwen or Viego do well in soloq in forever.
Gwen is a lategame menace but loses lane to almost everyone except pure tanks like Sion/Malphite.
Viego can only get through lane in mid but even then later he still gets oneshot by everything anyway. You have to sidelane him but he loses side to everyone as well.
I do feel like the coding on Gwen W is a bit wonky though, it feels like it always takes .5 sec to update who's inside which isn't ideal.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

May 06 2021 12:07 GMT

#23

I have also not seen a Gwen do particularly well in my games yet, despite how bs her kit feels she does not seem to actually do anything. I don't even think her late game is that great, she's a good duelist but that's it. Maybe people need more time to play her.

I was mainly thinking of jungle Viego, he gets shafted in lane. Hence the Kayn/Kha comparison, if you don't kick his teeth in before minute 10 and he gets a kill, he just runs around murdering camps and champs at breakneck speed without real counterplay. My Yone game he burst my Syndra every fight faster than my ult animation, think it was W from fog into Q AA R. Then he would turn around and kill me with 4 aa, only moderately fed when he came online. Another game, my jungle Viego did 69k dmg in 32 minutes, I don't think I've ever seen a champion do that much damage outside an ARAM match where Vayne was rolled into 4 tanks. He is squishy, but with his passive if he snowballs he is legit unkillable.

Fildun

Netherlands4122 Posts

May 06 2021 12:32 GMT

#24

I think lategame Gwen's ulti is really good, you can spam it both for poke and to threaten engage, you should almost always use it as your opener.
For Viego I guess it's also that I mostly play champs with some form of CC and/or brawlers so either he's CCd or he gets statchecked. I guess if your team sucks at dealing with him he's oppressive but that goes for a lot of champs in the game.

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