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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-28 01:53:16
May 28 2020 01:49 GMT
#141
On May 28 2020 10:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2020 10:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I think when you spend EG tier money to get into the league in the first place you damn well better make worlds. People like Huni, but people also meme on him hard core by this point so I feel like the amount you gain from having him might not actually get offset by the flaming and the memes if they lose out on a worlds spot with him

On May 28 2020 10:14 Gahlo wrote:
Kayle_bot on reddit, who iirc used to work at Clutch and now works at LEC said Academy counts too, so EG won't have to roster juggle to get Huni residency next year, they'd just need to sit him in Academy.


Very big if true. That would explain how Fenix is currently a resident as well no? Follow up question, does Huni then become resident after the LCS split or after worlds? Even if they made it to worlds they'd still run into this problem.


Making Worlds does not turn stones into gold in LoL, it's not TI. If anything, financially World Championship is almost a joke, unless your fanbase is LPL-tier massive, so you can get meaningful sticker money.

Only thing any LCS squad should care about is winning the league itself. If EG can simply carve out one good split out of Huni in 2021 in addition to other roster changes, it's still miles ahead of where they can be competition-wise with Kumo.



Idk if I agree with that last one, considering they got 2nd in the regular split and 3rd overall, but everything else I can't argue with.

On May 28 2020 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
The rulebook specifies it as Spring 2021.

Sidenote, they can watch Huni play in Academy with in house knowledge of what's going on with him, so even if an option comes up in the offseason that they prefer, they would now have a resident Huni bargaining chip.


By that same token, its even more mind boggling that Dig didn't hold on to him and then have the Resident Huni chip

holy shit, average player salary in LCS is $410k
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 28 2020 01:58 GMT
#142
On May 28 2020 10:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2020 10:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On May 28 2020 10:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I think when you spend EG tier money to get into the league in the first place you damn well better make worlds. People like Huni, but people also meme on him hard core by this point so I feel like the amount you gain from having him might not actually get offset by the flaming and the memes if they lose out on a worlds spot with him

On May 28 2020 10:14 Gahlo wrote:
Kayle_bot on reddit, who iirc used to work at Clutch and now works at LEC said Academy counts too, so EG won't have to roster juggle to get Huni residency next year, they'd just need to sit him in Academy.


Very big if true. That would explain how Fenix is currently a resident as well no? Follow up question, does Huni then become resident after the LCS split or after worlds? Even if they made it to worlds they'd still run into this problem.


Making Worlds does not turn stones into gold in LoL, it's not TI. If anything, financially World Championship is almost a joke, unless your fanbase is LPL-tier massive, so you can get meaningful sticker money.

Only thing any LCS squad should care about is winning the league itself. If EG can simply carve out one good split out of Huni in 2021 in addition to other roster changes, it's still miles ahead of where they can be competition-wise with Kumo.



Idk if I agree with that last one, considering they got 2nd in the regular split and 3rd overall, but everything else I can't argue with.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2020 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
The rulebook specifies it as Spring 2021.

Sidenote, they can watch Huni play in Academy with in house knowledge of what's going on with him, so even if an option comes up in the offseason that they prefer, they would now have a resident Huni bargaining chip.


By that same token, its even more mind boggling that Dig didn't hold on to him and then have the Resident Huni chip

holy shit, average player salary in LCS is $410k

They probably didn't want to continue paying him over $500k per split.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2020 13:40 GMT
#143
But by the same token of sticking him in academy and then having the resident Huni chip, I imagine you'd be able to sell Resident Huni and make back the difference between his salary and anyone else you'd pick up
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 28 2020 14:31 GMT
#144
On May 28 2020 22:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
But by the same token of sticking him in academy and then having the resident Huni chip, I imagine you'd be able to sell Resident Huni and make back the difference between his salary and anyone else you'd pick up

Yeah, feels like one of those "I can't see in the black box" scenarios, so who knows. Maybe Huni and somebody on the team who a) costs less and b) is performing better and this was the cheapest solution.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2020 14:50 GMT
#145
Yeah I agree, its hard to say from the outside. Both Viper and Lourlo appear to be downgrades to Huni but are obviously cheaper, but Huni has the guaranteed stock value increase after one more split. Whole thing is weird. Even down to Huni being okay with chilling in Academy for a split on EG
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 01:48:51
May 29 2020 01:46 GMT
#146
Keith isn't a support anymore

Its official, really wish EG would explain their plan from the video, he doesn't SOUND like he's playing for academy, and he specifically mentions playing with Bang, so Bang didn't Mickey on us
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 02:22:03
May 29 2020 02:18 GMT
#147
EG doin weird stuff in the lab.

According to Artemis(one of EG's coaches), Kumo is still the starter.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 29 2020 10:51 GMT
#148
Smeb back to KT.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 29 2020 12:21 GMT
#149
On May 29 2020 11:18 Gahlo wrote:
EG doin weird stuff in the lab.

According to Artemis(one of EG's coaches), Kumo is still the starter.


Do they have a mid laner to swap with? Is it just going to be bang <-> Deftly?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 29 2020 14:31 GMT
#150
Their other mid in the contract database is Giyuu, who isn't a resident either.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 29 2020 15:36 GMT
#151
I love that on the wiki it lists Giyuu's residency as "N/A"
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-01 19:37:02
June 01 2020 19:36 GMT
#152
Zven mentions on the CrackDown that TSM intentionally didn't persue Xmithe in the Hauntzer/MY/Bjerg/Zven/Mithy roster because they thought he was going to retire and didn't play enough soloQ.

Large oof
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-01 20:16:59
June 01 2020 20:15 GMT
#153
Knowing TSM they'd likely kill Xmithie's will to live in a split anyway
You're now breathing manually
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 01 2020 20:50 GMT
#154
Don't worry IMT did that anyway
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-04 15:20:00
June 03 2020 10:25 GMT
#155
Well...we all saw it coming. Uzi retires at age 23.

Uzi burst onto the scene as a 14-year-old, quickly establishing his dominance and spawning "Protect the Puppy" comps with Kog and Vayne as his team would put all resources into him with complete trust in him to carry the team. He made two consecutive Worlds Final appearances at the age of 15 and 16 and after years of 2nd place finishes in the LPL as well, he finally won the LPL in 2018. In 2018, he won both LPL Spring and Summer splits, MSI and the Asian Games, before failing to complete the 'grand slam of LoL' falling to G2 in the Quarterfinals of Worlds.

He is undoubtedly one of the greatest players in LoL history and the greatest ADC to ever play the game.
Que Sera Sera
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 04 2020 13:27 GMT
#156
Uzi talked on some program in China that he would come back if his health improves, and RNG has also talked about wanting to help him however they can. I'd love to see them take a year or two (or however long they need) using all the China bux they were gonna use on his salary to bring in the best athletic/diet/etc coaches and help him get better. Whether he actually comes back or not that would be really nice to see
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
June 04 2020 16:01 GMT
#157
I think him leaving is a good chance for RNG to build a team that doesn't revolve around Uzi for once. Don't think it was anyone's fault really, but when things got tough for RNG, every iteration of the roster would fall back to the bad habit of leaving the carrying to him. If the team flops, then we'll know for sure that his teammates were truly deadbeats and he was the only one dragging their corpses to the finish line for the past few years.

Sad seeing my favorite ADC leave, he filled the void for me when Weixiao retired. If he really were to come back after two years and see success, it would be the craziest comeback in LoL ever. But I doubt it, I think he's just going to stream and chill, especially considering his health.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 05 2020 23:10 GMT
#158
Because god forbid we have 3 NA mids in the NA LCS, GGS puts Damonte as their starting mid laner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 06 2020 03:04 GMT
#159
Damonte is NA though.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
June 06 2020 05:31 GMT
#160
On June 06 2020 12:04 Gahlo wrote:
Damonte is NA though.

and he is better than GG, honestly its amazing he still gets on LCS teams
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