EPTThe DL Leena thing is a big conflict of interest. But what's far worse imo is that the player union that's supposed to step in for these kinds of situations has DL and Bjerg on the board. Not only are they invested in the team they're supposed to judge, but they also have personal ties. Pretty messy situation.
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
The DL Leena thing is a big conflict of interest. But what's far worse imo is that the player union that's supposed to step in for these kinds of situations has DL and Bjerg on the board. Not only are they invested in the team they're supposed to judge, but they also have personal ties. Pretty messy situation. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
On May 12 2020 10:22 chipmonklord17 wrote: Wait...you mean to tell me that DL went to his gf's org AND Kobbe went to HIS gf's org...even if that's 100% coincidental holy hell that's suspicious as fuck For clarity, I believe its 100% coincidental I don't think it's purely coincidental. Professional LoL is still a system where knowing a guy who knows a guy is the most reliable way of getting a job. Sometimes those guys just happen to be girls. I'm not implying causation but I think those personal ties made the transfers far easier. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 13 2020 00:56 Sent. wrote: I don't think it's purely coincidental. Professional LoL is still a system where knowing a guy who knows a guy is the most reliable way of getting a job. Sometimes those guys just happen to be girls. I'm not implying causation but I think those personal ties made the transfers far easier. That's definitely what I meant, I guess coincidence is a bad word there, I just didn't want someone to think I was tin foil hat tier conspiracy theorizing. I wholeheartedly believe that DL would have joined TSM regardless, and MSF is one of the few orgs that actually would need an ADC upgrade, and someone of Kobbe's caliber is not going to fucking Vitality. But its still an optics nightmare Side note pointed out by Thorin, why is part owner of TSM, Bjergson, allowed to also be VP of the "independent" player's association? For that matter, why are 3 of the 5 executive positions held by members of one of 10 teams? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 13 2020 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote: That's definitely what I meant, I guess coincidence is a bad word there, I just didn't want someone to think I was tin foil hat tier conspiracy theorizing. I wholeheartedly believe that DL would have joined TSM regardless, and MSF is one of the few orgs that actually would need an ADC upgrade, and someone of Kobbe's caliber is not going to fucking Vitality. But its still an optics nightmare Side note pointed out by Thorin, why is part owner of TSM, Bjergson, allowed to also be VP of the "independent" player's association? For that matter, why are 3 of the 5 executive positions held by members of one of 10 teams? Because nobody, not even the players, takes the PA seriously. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
It is not in the interest of Riot, or investors imo, for a union to exist. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Also fucking hell man, I feel so bad for Dardoch | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
Do we know how big is Bjergsen's share in TSM btw? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Forget the fact that the players union is 3 TSM players (and 2 GGS players for that matter) and consider Bjerg exclusively. In this situation, how could he possibly be asked to be a representative of Dardoch's in the mistreatment that TSM have just done when he himself is an owner of TSM? Because any legitimate player's association would be defending their player from the absolute bullshit Dardoch just had done to him | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 13 2020 05:06 chipmonklord17 wrote: I get all that, I'm just surprised no one cares enough to pretend. Like I'm not asking them to care, I'm asking them to even pretend. Also fucking hell man, I feel so bad for Dardoch They do... as long as they can use it to flame TSM. After this we'll hear nothing about it again. On May 13 2020 05:23 Sent. wrote: I always thought the player's union is supposed to be something like an advisory body that can voice out what the players want in general. It's powerless and shouldn't be expected to protect particular players. With that in mind it's not that big of a big deal to me that Bjergsen is a part of its leadership. Do we know how big is Bjergsen's share in TSM btw? It's not a union, a union would have power. It's basically a suggestion box. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
If it were a proper union, you bet your ass they would've plugged conflict of interest loopholes like we see right now. Seems more like the PA is a press stunt to self confirm that the teams are behaving correctly. And if the PA does disagree with them, then teams can just tell them to pound sand. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 13 2020 07:17 DarkCore wrote: Yeah, it's not a union, so it's understandable that no one takes it very seriously. In fact, that's why it shouldn't be taken seriously: if one side plays fair, and the other doesn't, you have no leverage, legally speaking, to get something done. Hence why Dardoch is being left out to dry. If it were a proper union, you bet your ass they would've plugged conflict of interest loopholes like we see right now. Seems more like the PA is a press stunt to self confirm that the teams are behaving correctly. And if the PA does disagree with them, then teams can just tell them to pound sand. Yup, it's largely just there so Riot can say they did what they could and wash their hands of situations. | ||
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AdsMoFro
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
I don't get it, why did a Korean team hire a head coach who can't speak Korean? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 15 2020 07:01 Sent. wrote: https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/29176079/yamatocannon-joins-sandbox-gaming-first-western-lck-head-coach I don't get it, why did a Korean team hire a head coach who can't speak Korean? Don't think about it too hard, just enjoy the fact that he's going to bring fashion to Korean League of Legends. Imagine the epic speeches he can give to these players. Memes aside and my opinions on how strange this is aside, I'm really happy for him because I think he's actually a really good coach, and being the first Western Head Coach in LCK is pretty historic. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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chipmonklord17
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On May 15 2020 07:01 Sent. wrote: https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/29176079/yamatocannon-joins-sandbox-gaming-first-western-lck-head-coach I don't get it, why did a Korean team hire a head coach who can't speak Korean? SKT already have a former TL.net alumni Lord Tolkien as an analyst and he can't speak Korean afaik. The West is coming! Maybe Sandbox is getting a Western Player too? | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Sent.
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
Untara/V1per/Ucal leave Griffin. Interesting to see where they go at this point in time. Some NA teams could do with Ucal perhaps but it might be difficult with COVID-19. | ||
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