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On December 03 2020 14:34 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2020 14:28 Gahlo wrote:On December 03 2020 14:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On December 03 2020 10:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:DoubleLift's own account of what occurred this off season
DL suggests Palette and SwordArt as possible supports TSM tries to get SwordArt and says "we probably can't get him, will you play with Palette?" "no" DL retires and SwordArt is picked up Shitty attitude tbh. Also apparently Rekkles promised Fnatic he'd stay and then hopped to G2, although he doesn't elaborate further. He definitely could have meant something to the effect of "I promised I'd retire there" and not that he directly promised this split that he'd stay, but he definitely is framing himself in a super shitty light unprofessional and incompetent all round. doublelift has shown his professionalism (or lack thereof) previously so its no surprise, but also the fact that the organisation is looking for doublelifts permission to sign someone is why theyre never gonna go anywhere internationally. the head coachs job is to determine what kind of player to bring in and how to utilise the players. its not your adc's call, no matter how big of a star he is. the other players might have their opinions but ultimately they should just let the head coach and whoevers in charge of transfers do their thing and go with whatever the results are. That's actually the GM's job. Was this a roundabout way to throw more shots at Parth 
Two birds with one stone.
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Not to dogpile on the TSM incompetence, but does anyone else think its extremely weird that TSM grabbed Huni from EG while Impact was a free agent? Did Impact not want to join TSM? Did they pull an xmithie where they thought he wouldnt be good before he joined TL? It can't be money can it? I just don't understand how you skip out on free agent impact for buy out huni
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On December 03 2020 14:28 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2020 14:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On December 03 2020 10:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:DoubleLift's own account of what occurred this off season
DL suggests Palette and SwordArt as possible supports TSM tries to get SwordArt and says "we probably can't get him, will you play with Palette?" "no" DL retires and SwordArt is picked up Shitty attitude tbh. Also apparently Rekkles promised Fnatic he'd stay and then hopped to G2, although he doesn't elaborate further. He definitely could have meant something to the effect of "I promised I'd retire there" and not that he directly promised this split that he'd stay, but he definitely is framing himself in a super shitty light unprofessional and incompetent all round. doublelift has shown his professionalism (or lack thereof) previously so its no surprise, but also the fact that the organisation is looking for doublelifts permission to sign someone is why theyre never gonna go anywhere internationally. the head coachs job is to determine what kind of player to bring in and how to utilise the players. its not your adc's call, no matter how big of a star he is. the other players might have their opinions but ultimately they should just let the head coach and whoevers in charge of transfers do their thing and go with whatever the results are. That's actually the GM's job.
i dunno how tsms org specifically works and what titles they have in the org, but in any other sporting team (esports or traditional) it would be the head coach/managers job. im assuming tsm's gm position is a bit like t1's ceo position? thats not a role i would consider qualified to make decisions about which player to bring to the team. that role is for negotiating a transfer after the decision has been made
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In NA sports the GM is explicitly the roster maker, Billy Beane for example, was a GM when he became known for creating his "moneyball" roster construction paradigm
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On December 03 2020 22:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Not to dogpile on the TSM incompetence, but does anyone else think its extremely weird that TSM grabbed Huni from EG while Impact was a free agent? Did Impact not want to join TSM? Did they pull an xmithie where they thought he wouldnt be good before he joined TL? It can't be money can it? I just don't understand how you skip out on free agent impact for buy out huni
I wouldn't say it's "extremely" weird. I'm probably underrating Impact, I certainly did in the past, but I still think he's just a solid player nearing the end of his career. Huni on the other hand is 3 years younger than him and apparatenly impresses everyone in tryouts, so it's not that weird that some teams might value Huni higher than Impact despite much worse results in recent years.
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To be fair, so did a player like GoldenGlue, but years of on stage performance tells a different story. But that's a good point.
In other region news I'm honestly shocked that TOP didn't boot Yuyanjia. Not calling for his head, but with China's depth and the fact that he was far and away their weak link I'm just surprised there isn't a rookie taking his place at the very least.
T1 signs multi year deal with Red Bull.
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Sometimes being the weakest link on your team nets you the largest contract in LCS history so stranger things have happened
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On December 04 2020 02:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:To be fair, so did a player like GoldenGlue, but years of on stage performance tells a different story. But that's a good point. In other region news I'm honestly shocked that TOP didn't boot Yuyanjia. Not calling for his head, but with China's depth and the fact that he was far and away their weak link I'm just surprised there isn't a rookie taking his place at the very least. T1 signs multi year deal with Red Bull.
True, there are a few veteran supports in CN that could easily replace him, or some rookie from LSPL. Maybe JL sees something in him? TES needs to reflect on their Worlds performance, their weaknesses got hard exposed (JDG even more...).
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On December 03 2020 22:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Not to dogpile on the TSM incompetence, but does anyone else think its extremely weird that TSM grabbed Huni from EG while Impact was a free agent? Did Impact not want to join TSM? Did they pull an xmithie where they thought he wouldnt be good before he joined TL? It can't be money can it? I just don't understand how you skip out on free agent impact for buy out huni
Impact and DL didn't get along towards the end of DL's time on TL. Apparently, it's where the rift between him and the rest of the roster started. So, with DL delaying his departure Impact was a non-starter and now that DL's gone it's too late.
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New LCS format announced. Riot saw everyone's complaints that NA should have a kespa cup type tournament so they gave it to us, except they removed the actually important part of the tournament and its just the same 10 LCS teams playing a different format tournament.
Instead of the spring split playoffs they'll have the Mid Season Showdown....which is exactly the same thing as spring play offs. Still best of 1s regular season.
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I will give cvMax the benefit of the doubt until evidence is shown. The GRF case was handled so poorly, and this appears to be a part of it. Hitting a chair violently is workplace intimidation, and if Sword needed therapy because of cvMax, then 5 months is not much. But the GRF implosion hinted heavily that Sword is not a reliable person and KR esports is rotten, so if this new committee wants to prove they are credible, the easiest way they could do it is by publicly releasing their evidence.
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Still Bo1, so still garbage.
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the format change is a big ok but why from me, I'm not really sure why I'm supposed to be interested moreso than before.
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Its not about your interest, its about more games = more competitive internationally. Except its still best of 1s. And you're supposed to care because NA finally has their own Kespa cup before the season begins....with only the same teams you're about to watch anyway.
imo it should either be
1) more teams than 10 participating
2) you can only use X number of players from your starting roster
Preferably option 1 because I don't really want to watch Frankenstein rosters, I want to watch Academy teams get to fight against LCS teams at least once in a year. What, are they afraid that C9.A is going to shitstomp bottom tier LCS?
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What, are they afraid that C9.A is going to shitstomp bottom tier LCS?
Even if it's not the actual reason why Riot NA chose to do things that way, it actually might a good reason.
We're supposed to believe the LCS teams are the 10 best teams in the region, but it's totally possible the best one or two teams in the league are capable of creating back-up academy teams with better (and higher paid) players than those playing for the worst LCS teams. People then would ask to have those worst teams replaced by the academy teams, and then Riot would find itself in an uncomfortable position of having to explain why having one entity own two teams in a league is a bad thing.
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Then those low tier teams have two choices, hire better talent scouts to get those players when they were cheaper, or pay the premium for other people doing the work of scouting. If you don't like those options then cash out on your spot and fuck off. It makes the league better if the players who weren't given a chance to play in LCS and get an Academy spot shit stomp the lower teams.
It also defeats the actual purpose of the kespa/NEST/Douyu cups. I will admit its a little different because, due to franchising, the other team spots wouldn't be going to a Jin Air/Runaways/ESC Ever back in the day, they'd be going to the Academy team of the same LCS teams, but in principle it still would show off talent. Hell, do bottom X LCS teams (to reward the top tier teams with a bit more vacation/prep time), top X Academy and top X amateur. Literally anything other than, here's the exact same teams you'll see play for the year
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Only in Wild Rift, so for us they might as well still be dead.
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EPT
