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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
November 25 2020 00:55 GMT
#401
On November 25 2020 09:43 Sent. wrote:
Hmm where is Parth...

https://tsm.gg/news/tsm-2021-lcs-coaching-staff-announcement

I still don't get that T1 discord thing btw. Was LS harassed there by T1 employees or just random fans? Why did that matter at all?

Parth is the GM. He was only coach last year because he was incompetent enough to not hire one.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-25 05:05:04
November 25 2020 05:03 GMT
#402
On November 24 2020 22:42 Uldridge wrote:
I've seen glimpses of this video, he looks.. dehydrated/sick. Whatever happened to him, I hope he recovers fully.
I have never known the era surrounding the controversy around him. I do think I used to find him unprofessional on air and especially during his streams/videos (call it Western or American arrogance), however he showed some growth as a commentator and even enjoyed listening to him somewhat. No one really deserves to suffer in life, no matter how inundated in toxicity one is.



I agree he looks pretty down. The guy had an insane streaming/casting schedule this year which was quite clearly not healthy at all. I also agree that LS has improved immensely as a caster. I found him rather insufferable at first and would often mute the stream but now I don't mind him. I still dislike his stream persona but he is one of the few streamers that focuses entirely on analytical content so I have to give him props for that.

Does anyone else think Bjerg wouldn't be that good of a head coach. He doesn't strike me as one. Reminds me of a Messi-type captain (for a sports analogy) where it's lead by example rather than be the leading voice. I believe that was one of TSM's main problems as a team. I couldn't imagine Messi as a coach either.
Que Sera Sera
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-25 14:47:56
November 25 2020 14:40 GMT
#403
I talked a lot about it earlier in this thread so I'll just do a tl;dr version but I agree. IMO the team appearing to be coached poorly, but consistently across the different coaching staves they have had shows that Bjerg's influence was greater than any of the previous coaches and that he is bad at it.

On the LS Topic I felt similar on his casting, I hated it, then I actually kinda liked it, then it got kinda old for me, I felt like when the item specialist thing got big I though he leaned into it a bit to hard for me personally(separate from it was proably correct in terms of mass popularity). But none of that really matters I feel bad for him, the way he got treated, for accepting a job that any of the people who shit on him would take in a second if offered.
Carrilord has arrived.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 25 2020 16:19 GMT
#404
Nemesis wasn't interested in the spots he was offered, so he's not playing pro this split. I don't know what to say about this. I guess he didn't want to go to NA?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
November 25 2020 16:41 GMT
#405
Tbh I understand not wanting to play for Excel, SK, Vitality or Astralis after being Fnatic's mid laner. Misfits would be a reasonable choice, but they probably didn't want him. If he had any serious NA offers, which I doubt, those probably wouldn't be lucrative enough to justify hurting his career in the long run.
You're now breathing manually
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-25 18:47:39
November 25 2020 18:46 GMT
#406
hard to comment on it without knowing what the offers looked like and who they were from, but he had a bad summer split, followed by a bad worlds. That being his last look is only going to get worse for him over time if he isn't in the LEC to re prove himself.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-25 22:05:47
November 25 2020 21:42 GMT
#407
Doublelift retires.

Edit: From the TSM subreddit.

[image loading]
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
November 25 2020 22:12 GMT
#408
All that trouble with TL just to retire so quickly after rejoining TSM, ehh...
You're now breathing manually
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 26 2020 00:14 GMT
#409
Kinda sad I won't get to see him further slide into irrelevancy. Still laughing my ass off, though.

He's been checked out for years, I don't care what he says.
The original Bogus fan.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
November 26 2020 01:54 GMT
#410
On November 26 2020 09:14 Turbovolver wrote:
Kinda sad I won't get to see him further slide into irrelevancy. Still laughing my ass off, though.

He's been checked out for years, I don't care what he says.

still won 4 in a row until this year, and won his last split, better than any NA adc so far
Faker is the GOAT!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 26 2020 03:56 GMT
#411
On November 26 2020 10:54 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 09:14 Turbovolver wrote:
Kinda sad I won't get to see him further slide into irrelevancy. Still laughing my ass off, though.

He's been checked out for years, I don't care what he says.

still won 4 in a row until this year, and won his last split, better than any NA adc so far

Better results, sure. The harder argument to make is that the last couple of years wasn't his rep and admittedly strong historical performance getting him onto strong teams where he could be mediocre and rack up results. Not that I want to make a super strong claim on his level of gameplay because I imagine others would be better judges... but it's undeniable he was literally benched by one such good team for poor motivation. And it's almost certainly the case that he's now going out on as high a note as he can cuz he knows he's washed up.

I also wouldn't be shocked if he surprised TSM with the news, too. Was no great fan of the personality I saw in his stream with LS.
The original Bogus fan.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-26 05:30:00
November 26 2020 05:24 GMT
#412
Considering he's in a relationship with the president, no he didn't surprise them with the news
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 26 2020 05:32 GMT
#413
Oh yeah lol, well that's a good point :B
The original Bogus fan.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 26 2020 14:26 GMT
#414
But look on the bright side, TSM can have the same two coaches they've had for years
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-26 15:08:29
November 26 2020 15:06 GMT
#415
Scuttlebutt is that Sword Art has finally, officially, signed with TSM.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/esports/2020/11/26/swordart-tsm-contract/
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 26 2020 16:53 GMT
#416
On November 27 2020 00:06 Gahlo wrote:
Scuttlebutt is that Sword Art has finally, officially, signed with TSM.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/esports/2020/11/26/swordart-tsm-contract/

OK hang on, but if the SwordArt move is going ahead, what was DL doing with all the "I'm not playing unless you can get SwordArt" stuff like a week ago? Seems like he did just spring it on people after all.
The original Bogus fan.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
November 26 2020 16:56 GMT
#417
Or maybe the rumor about that was false. Who knows.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 26 2020 17:52 GMT
#418
I thought that was weird as well especially because I don’t think Swordart is a particularly good signing unless your adc specifically asked for him
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 26 2020 17:59 GMT
#419
Good enough to make it to World finals though, something Doublelift could only dream of.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-26 21:51:53
November 26 2020 18:40 GMT
#420
DoubleLift did said he was thinking about retiring with Bierg so it’s possible he said fuck it anyway. Really curious how that effects Impact. If TSM is no longer sending Lost to EG I wonder if EG is sending Huni over and what that means for the Impact to EG deal.

Also I have to say that I think that Upset/Hyli is a more synergistic botlane than Rekkles/Hyli, even if I'm a bigger fan of Rekkles staying on FNC than leaving, I do think the Upset/Hyli bot lane has great potential
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