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[Patch 8.9] Mage Items Adjustments Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 02:48:55
May 01 2018 22:37 GMT
#1
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Patch 8.9: Live on May. 2nd, 2018

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Patch 8.8 Leblanc General Discussion
Patch 8.7 Irelia Rework General Discussion
Patch 8.6 Duskblade General Discussion
Patch 8.5 Kai'Sa Release General Discussion
Patch 8.4 AP Items General Discussion
Patch 8.3 Swain Remake General Discussion
Patch 8.2 RIP Malzahar General Discussion
Patch 8.1 Welcome to Season 8 General Discussion
Patch 7.24 Snowdown Showdown General Discussion
Patch 7.23 Zoe General Discussion
Patch 7.22 Runes Reforged General Discussion
Patch 7.21 RIP Ardent Censer General Discussion
Patch 7.20 Evelynn Remake General Discussion
Patch 7.19 Post Worlds 2017 General Discussion
Patch 7.18 Worlds 2017 Patch General Discussion
Patch 7.17 Ornn General Discussion
Patch 7.16 Battle Boss General Discussion
Patch 7.15 Urgot General Discussion
Patch 7.14 Kayn General DIscussion
Patch 7.13 SKT Skins General Discussion
Patch 7.12 Support Items General Discussion
Patch 7.11 10 Ranked Bans General Discussion
Patch 7.10 Surrender @ 15 General Discussion
Patch 7.9 Tank Update General Discussion
Patch 7.8 Xayah & Rakan General Discussion
Patch 7.7 The Yeti is Here General Discussion
Patch 7.6 Galio Update General Discussion
Patch 7.5 RIP LeBlanc General Discussion
Patch 7.4 Lethanlity Nerfs General Discussion
Patch 7.3 Sandbox General Discussion
Patch 7.2 Warwick Rework General Discussion
Patch 7.1 Welcome to Season 7 General Discussion
Que Sera Sera
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 01 2018 23:03 GMT
#2
Those are some big Lux buffs.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
May 01 2018 23:58 GMT
#3
Those poppy changes seem uhh?

Feels Riot is shifting power around for a couple of champions for some more changes later on once they have some data for the new playstyles.
Que Sera Sera
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 02:14:30
May 02 2018 01:25 GMT
#4
I love it. All my champs / builds got buffed. Vlad is better (no mana). AP Cho is way better since he has innate sustain and they buffed his first full item (ludens). Tank Swain is better since he goes catalyst into frozen heart and has infinite mana anyway so this won’t do anything to slow down his spell casts.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
May 02 2018 02:15 GMT
#5
On May 02 2018 08:03 Gahlo wrote:
Those are some big Lux buffs.


Lux has a really nice fancy expensive skin and she’s going to get buffs until the pros can play with it.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 17:07:54
May 02 2018 17:06 GMT
#6
amumu buff is pretty sizeable actually. One of the big issues with amumu was the prohibitively high cost of a rank 5 Q (Q max 2nd, or 1st with 3 points in E was the best build for him IMO). If you wanted to use it few times in a fight instead of just the one combo with ult, you went oom incredibly fast which meant it mattered less if you got ahead.

I mean he wants
-Max CDR so he can actually gap close with Q
-Loads of tank stats because he has nothing innate except E and meh base hp
-AP if you can get it because it's really nice
-Utility if none of the above is worth it

Having to get max mana as well if you wanted to be useful for any prolonged fight was annoying.

His biggest issue is just being a worse sejuani though. It was worse before when not only was he less tanky but he also had to get close to engage. Now he has a better AoE CC but still more squishy than seju

mundo buff looks like it could get pretty funny with stoneplate+spirit visage+warmogs and pop R level 16 for 260% max hp heal..
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 03 2018 05:02 GMT
#7
I always kind of thought if you didn't build yolo 1shot squishy build on Mumu you were a troll that shoulda picked Sej.

Not that I've ever thought yolo ap mummy was good, but in modern league he's never had a good tank kit.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 03 2018 05:04 GMT
#8
can they stop buffing lux

how many buffs they are going to throw her way this year
TL/SKT
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 03 2018 05:18 GMT
#9
The Ivern buffs feel nasty. Post level 15 you need literally 3 seconds to get a buff AND a copy for a carry. That shit is massive, I don't think any champion can kill a buff that fast and Ivern getting it gives the copy
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 03 2018 06:27 GMT
#10
A few junglers can do it I think, but pretty much only using smite. And the tank junglers most certainly can't, so have to see if they lose viability.

Riot discovering Spellbinding isn't very good, decide to increase the cost and decrease AP for MS. I predict it will be used even less now.

Mundo buff is hilariously dumb, if enemy doesn't get GW, he becomes unkillable, if they do, he's still pretty useless. At the very least he'll probably dump on more champions in lane.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 03 2018 08:00 GMT
#11
I don't think post level 11 clear speed is what decides which jungler are viable and which ones are not. Still, it's a nice change which makes him feel a lot better.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-03 12:31:17
May 03 2018 11:05 GMT
#12
On May 03 2018 14:02 iCanada wrote:
I always kind of thought if you didn't build yolo 1shot squishy build on Mumu you were a troll that shoulda picked Sej.

Not that I've ever thought yolo ap mummy was good, but in modern league he's never had a good tank kit.


playing a bad build is worse than picking a build that is slightly inferior to the same build on another champ, I mean a few thousand gold probably definitely makes a bigger difference than your champ being a bit weaker at 25 minutes.

I'm not sure AP mumu is always terrible but if it is it's more troll than tank amumu.

Mumu was used like once by cloudtemplar in S2 in a big game they won and next patch they nerfed his ult radius and therefore his ult area quite significantly and he hasn't been seen since.

Mundos buffs don't do much about his lane phase tbh, it's mostly lvl 11/16 that you notice it.


Killing camps in 3 seconds lategame isn't a big deal at all. People like udyr, shyvana have no problem doing it. I imagine Kha, warriors/trinity olaf skarner or xin have no problem with it either.
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
May 03 2018 12:13 GMT
#13
Also unless you are scip you probably won't even reach lvl 15 that often as jungler. And if it happens you really don't care about clearseed anymore.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-03 13:11:16
May 03 2018 13:11 GMT
#14
On May 03 2018 14:02 iCanada wrote:

Mumu was used like once by cloudtemplar in S2 in a big game they won and next patch they nerfed his ult radius and therefore his ult area quite significantly and he hasn't been seen since.


Hey, MVP played it a couple times last season too. It was AP as well!
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 03 2018 15:11 GMT
#15
The AP buffs to Shyvanna is the most random thing I've seen in a long time.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 03 2018 15:27 GMT
#16
I don't fully understand either, is there an item she builds that has AP as a side stat? Even weirder because they removed the AP ratio on her W.

A relatively unexplored part of Shyvana's fantasy is the whole flying-around-breathing-fire thing. We're moving around some of her ability power ratios to enable more people to try out this play pattern.


Someone at Riot actually endorses AP Shyv? I'll be honest, I don't think I've seen it once in my entire time playing this game.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-03 15:53:05
May 03 2018 15:52 GMT
#17
Some people here complained that you used to be able to build both AP and AD on champs if you wanted damage. Doesn't matter if it's not good at a high level but it can be fun.
Seems like this is what riot is trying to bring back in places and I like the idea.

gonna see some clips of ap shyvanas one shotting people with R E
aka Teutonica
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 03 2018 17:00 GMT
#18
I approve if it's as hilarious as this:
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 03 2018 17:28 GMT
#19
I just want Tiamat stacking Shy back.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 03 2018 19:43 GMT
#20
On May 04 2018 02:00 Yorbon wrote:
I approve if it's as hilarious as this:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pelujKaSB50


Wtf is that custom skin at the end of the video, is that supposed to be a bat? A moose? It looks hilarious. And the channel is pretty funny, something else to watch instead of doing work.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
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