EPTI could see something like QWEQQR -> R>W>Q>E being optimal.
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I could see something like QWEQQR -> R>W>Q>E being optimal. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On a totally unrelated note. Tank top lane Veigar is legit, righteous glory is insane on him. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Speaking of Xayah, does anyone else who is a Xayah/Rakan player run into someone in ranked who clearly is only playing Xayah/Rakan because you hover/locked in the other? I swear the amount of times I've played with Xayahs that clearly don't know how to play the champion but want 'muh synergy' is insane. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On October 16 2017 03:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: I've never played her myself but I've heard quite a few people who enjoy playing as her. Speaking of Xayah, does anyone else who is a Xayah/Rakan player run into someone in ranked who clearly is only playing Xayah/Rakan because you hover/locked in the other? I swear the amount of times I've played with Xayahs that clearly don't know how to play the champion but want 'muh synergy' is insane. I dont play either but I've played against people who do it way too often. Over half of the Rakan/Xayah lanes seem like one of them have no idea how to play the champion. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
I dont know if it's practical, but if there's any upcomming neo-Eve players it might be something to figure out. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 16 2017 02:26 Gahlo wrote: Opened a Xayah champ shard. Should I DE her now for the 2112BE now, keep her for later to unlock her, or unlock her now? Unlocking now i think is just mathematically the worst. Unlock later or DE now are your value options, depending on if you want one of the best ADCs or not. On October 16 2017 03:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: I've never played her myself but I've heard quite a few people who enjoy playing as her. Speaking of Xayah, does anyone else who is a Xayah/Rakan player run into someone in ranked who clearly is only playing Xayah/Rakan because you hover/locked in the other? I swear the amount of times I've played with Xayahs that clearly don't know how to play the champion but want 'muh synergy' is insane. You can usually tell by who starts the attack speed buff and who starts the Feather throw thing. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 16 2017 06:03 Jek wrote: After playing around with Eve in practice tool I've discovered you can manipulate your ult with flash where you blink the same way as you attack. I've managed to do it twice over 20-30 minutes of frantic testing, I cannot for the life of me find the exact sequence you need to do it. It might be similar to how you can change lance direction on Leona or the old Lux trick with her ult but with an insanely low window of opportunity. I dont know if it's practical, but if there's any upcomming neo-Eve players it might be something to figure out. You want to break down the exact interaction>?I screwed around with it for a bit, and I don't get whatyou're saying. Like a flash with R buffered? If it's R with flash buffering I don't think that is a thing; tried it like 200 times. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
That could be as small as a 1 frame window though, depending on how that stuff is coded. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 16 2017 10:08 PrinceXizor wrote: My guess is post hitbox on your ult you flash behind your targeting point, which, when the attack checks your positioning to teleport you, sees the opposite of what it was when you hit the button, and you teleport back. That could be as small as a 1 frame window though, depending on how that stuff is coded. Hmm, I think your summoners just totally locked out, no? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 16 2017 10:09 iCanada wrote: Hmm, I think your summoners just totally locked out, no? I dunno i havent tried it im just guessing based on how i think it COULD work. i'll mess with it when i have the time. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I feel like her numbers a bit lower than they used to be, but you can easily pop off by catching people alone. I think she better at it than before, her new W is obscene. The range on W is silly, you can single out someone and pop them from so far away with W. They know they dead but in solo-queue they can't call for help. Easy to pick off ADC's or APC's that are just a little away from their team. They dead by the time the charm finishes. I definitely think W-max is the way to go. I think QWEQQR, R>W>Q>E is the way to go. I think QWEWWR, R>W>Q>E is better if you snowball, but I think if you snowball it doesn't matter what you skill. Nice to have the points in Q for the clear speed I think. R>protobelt is disgusting btw. I think sorc shoes better than Mobis, don't need the out of combat move-speed with new W. Biggest thing is stealthing in and popping someone, then R'ing out as the finisher. you can legit like W->protobeltEQ->R and kill a squishy in a pack of 3 or 4, then stealth back in and re-engage in like 5-10s and pop a different squishy. Kind of feels like you're just a shark in the water smelling for blood, reminds me of Muta's in broodwar ZvT, if a partiocular person gets even a little separated you just swoop in and kill them. The W range is actually huge, think it needs to be maxed first for sure. Don't know if I like blue smite or red smite better. Not sure if I like protobelt first, or lichbane first. I think you definitely want runic + protobelt + lichbane as your core though. Maybe depends on comps? idk. I think protobelt maybe a little better because ideally you are popping an ADC with basically in a 1 auto combo, and proto likely does more damage in this scenario. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On October 16 2017 10:02 iCanada wrote: You want to break down the exact interaction>?I screwed around with it for a bit, and I don't get whatyou're saying. Like a flash with R buffered? If it's R with flash buffering I don't think that is a thing; tried it like 200 times. I honestly dont know if it R-F or F-R. The two times it happend I was basically just smashing away at the keyboard while spinning the mouse frantic around the screen to test any possible cute interaction, hoped to find something like how Leona can change E direction on the fly. What happend was: Ult this direction -> Blink this direction -> Basically the opposite of how it's supposed to work. If the window is short enough it could perhaps be due the commands being received by the server in such a fast fashion it botch up the prority in the query. Something like. Flash+Ult: 1) First part of skill start. 2) Flash happens. 3) Now mouse cursor is behind character location. 4) Second part of skill happens. 5) Game register mouse location as the cast origin. It could also just have been a graphic glitch like how Cass R/F used to be. Riot really needs to give us replays of Practice Tool sessions. :-/ | ||
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Chemiczny
Poland9 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 16 2017 21:47 Sent. wrote: Correct - it's better to buy shards and disenchant those you don't want to save. It's better to DE all the champs you get regardless of price. DE on a 6300 champ nets ~2.1k of S8 IP/BE. Using a champ shard in S8 is only a 20% cost reduction, which is 1260IP/BE. I did this yesterday with a Xayah shard. If you really want the champ though, and it's 6300, upgrading it now nets ~1.9k value, so you're only outing yourself a little bit for the availability. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On October 16 2017 22:12 Gahlo wrote: It's better to DE all the champs you get regardless of price. DE on a 6300 champ nets ~2.1k of S8 IP/BE. Using a champ shard in S8 is only a 20% cost reduction, which is 1260IP/BE. I did this yesterday with a Xayah shard. If you really want the champ though, and it's 6300, upgrading it now nets ~1.9k value, so you're only outing yourself a little bit for the availability. I think if you have all the champs, the expected value of the 450 shards are higher if you reroll them into permanents maybe? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 16 2017 23:04 GrandInquisitor wrote: I think if you have all the champs, the expected value of the 450 shards are higher if you reroll them into permanents maybe? Is rerolling shards a guarantee for a champ you don't own? | ||
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Chemiczny
Poland9 Posts
On October 16 2017 23:17 Gahlo wrote: Is rerolling shards a guarantee for a champ you don't own? Yes I get new champs at release for 3x champ shard so 5100 ip, I am planning to keep ip/blue essence till next chromas ip sale but don't know if it's better to buy chests with all of the IP and DE them or just keep the IP because couldn't find conversion rate when they remove IP from the game, I got a couple of shards anyway it would just be a bit boring to buy 70 shards and DE them lol | ||
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