EPT[Patch 6.6] Dragon Starsurge Z General Discussion - Page 2
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2338 Posts
"Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: a high-damage carry champion builds primarily tank items and still manages to deal enough damage to duel everyone while being impossible to take down." Fiora isn't only getting shat on at the moment, but she is practically useless until she has 2 DAMAGE items (hydra and BC), then she builds tank because she NEEDS it to survive, not to make her "impossible to take down". | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 23 2016 14:30 foxmeep wrote: Does Riot even watch their own game? "Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: a high-damage carry champion builds primarily tank items and still manages to deal enough damage to duel everyone while being impossible to take down." Fiora isn't only getting shat on at the moment, but she is practically useless until she has 2 DAMAGE items (hydra and BC), then she builds tank because she NEEDS it to survive, not to make her "impossible to take down". Yeah, and then she does stupid damage. That's the problem, that she does as much damage as she does while investing little into it. She blows up priority targets and tanks when rolling. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
you're right that she has a power spike at 2 items but it's not from useless -> ok it's ok -> holy shit no one can beat her even with a gold lead she builds tanky because going damage is just overkill. you already shit on everyone as a splitpusher at 2 items anyways, why not go tank so that you can still teamfight when need be without sacrificing splitpush capabilities at all if she's going to be that unstoppable splitpusher its totally fair that she should build more damage items. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Wonder if she'll stay competitive. Dropping the level 1 shield strength that much might actually make her weak in lane to Assassins instead of only weak to Assassins in peoples imagination. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 23 2016 13:54 MooMooMugi wrote: Mao finally gets that MR scaling that all the tanks in the game already do That + his passive tend to make him pretty tanky to mages in lane though. Aaaaand Riot are laying the groundwork to backtrack on soloQ and say "well in the end we won't make it" with the usual bullshit "we didn't anticipate this well, we're sorry and we deserve the heat we're taking." This feels disingenuous. And if it isn't, then it means it's the 4th or 5th occasion in which they rehash this, so they're got a poor track record in terms of expertise in evaluating/planning stuff. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I still can't get over how strong her level 1 is, surprises me everytime how many times she can proc grasp before you are even lvl 2, so fucking annoying | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On March 23 2016 19:37 Alaric wrote: The shield stacks, so unless you burst the first half of the shield, deal damage, then manage to break off the trade before the second half comes in (without taking more damage because of the premature disengage) it's a buff, though. That + his passive tend to make him pretty tanky to mages in lane though. Aaaaand Riot are laying the groundwork to backtrack on soloQ and say "well in the end we won't make it" with the usual bullshit "we didn't anticipate this well, we're sorry and we deserve the heat we're taking." This feels disingenuous. And if it isn't, then it means it's the 4th or 5th occasion in which they rehash this, so they're got a poor track record in terms of expertise in evaluating/planning stuff. Just as most of us predicted. What a joke. Pros are rightfully mad, but Riot knows they won't just switch games or something like that. The casual-fest is real, so apparently Riot was extremely fearful of losing massive amounts of players if they don't dumb down the ranked system into oblivion. Meh, at least they said since we are not getting solo ranked and will be forever stuck with this glorified teambuilder, they are implementing voice comms. Oh, wait... At least Fiora and Yi are nerfed, and someone took away the LSD from the people who tried to "balance" Lulu. God bless. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On March 23 2016 10:07 Celial wrote: Can I put in Fill/Support and basically get support guaranteed? Just put in Support/x and basically get support guaranteed. On March 23 2016 13:54 MooMooMugi wrote: Mao finally gets that MR scaling that all the tanks in the game already do Getting it back. He had it when he was getting all the pro play from ages ago, they removed it and he lost a lot of favor. On March 23 2016 19:37 Alaric wrote: Didn't the shield stack on lux before anyway?The shield stacks, so unless you burst the first half of the shield, deal damage, then manage to break off the trade before the second half comes in (without taking more damage because of the premature disengage) it's a buff, though. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
On March 24 2016 05:01 Goumindong wrote: Getting it back. He had it when he was getting all the pro play from ages ago, they removed it and he lost a lot of favor. Source? | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Could have sworn it was true, must have been a different melee top. Anyway, i looked but can't substantiate | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On March 23 2016 14:30 foxmeep wrote: Does Riot even watch their own game? "Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: a high-damage carry champion builds primarily tank items and still manages to deal enough damage to duel everyone while being impossible to take down." Fiora isn't only getting shat on at the moment, but she is practically useless until she has 2 DAMAGE items (hydra and BC), then she builds tank because she NEEDS it to survive, not to make her "impossible to take down". BC and Titanic aren't damage items. They're hybrid items and this is a fundamental misunderstanding a lot of people have about bruiser/melee carry/certain AP's itemization. | ||
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