Haven't played enough games with Jhin's to make a judgement tbh. All the games I've played the other lanes won so hard the Jhin performance didn't really matter. Damage seems pretty good though.

I think his traps need to be tuned down a bit, but everything else is probably fine.

Kinie

United States3106 Posts

February 04 2016 07:20 GMT

#202

Jhin's strong, not OP. The fact that you can't manually reload his attacks (or Graves for that matter) and that his reload speed is locked in at a solid 1-1.5s means that he is going to hit like a truck 3-4 times on one thing and then be useless until he's reloaded.

If he hits a squishy then he'll probably literally 3 shot them with insane AD and crits (because going BT + Reaver + 3 IEs is a legit build option for him), but if he hits a tank (especially one with Thornmail) he's going to blow himself up.

That's kinda why I think he'd be better mid than as an AD Carry, assuming they fix the FPS drop bug on his ult, as it might as well be a Xerath ult.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

February 04 2016 08:39 GMT

#203

yea I played with a Jihn mid today, they just shoved mid and pushed me around my own jungle 24/7

Alaric

France45622 Posts

February 04 2016 09:15 GMT

#204

Just wait for him to be paired with Orianna and win a teamfight just by shooting one W in as he gets an assist when her ult kills somebody and his passive kicks in and Es everybody while they can't run out.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 04 2016 16:52 GMT

#205

http://puu.sh/mVnPq.jpeg

Leaked 6.3 patch notes.
RIP Graves? Or it still makes him worth abusing?
I love Gragas changes, that Q slow and E AoE on 250 radius is nice.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

February 04 2016 17:00 GMT

#206

I can probably jungle Gragas again... question is do I go warrior, cinderhulk or runic echoes

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

February 04 2016 17:02 GMT

#207

You realize gragas doesn't have a single ad scaling ability?

This season is starting to remind of me of s2. The amount of waveclear and jungle clear speed is insane. Yet another champion with his aoe w is gonna just oneshot camps.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

February 04 2016 17:09 GMT

#208

Gragas buff is to replace purple smite.

Bring back purple smite please.

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

February 04 2016 17:10 GMT

#209

Why? Most junglers don't even lose hp/mana( if not the opposite) for clearing while being fast at it.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

February 04 2016 17:19 GMT

#210

Duskblade on EZ will be hilarious. now he just pokes harder.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

February 04 2016 17:40 GMT

#211

On February 05 2016 02:02 nafta wrote:
You realize gragas doesn't have a single ad scaling ability?

This season is starting to remind of me of s2. The amount of waveclear and jungle clear speed is insane. Yet another champion with his aoe w is gonna just oneshot camps.

Yeah I know. Never played it but pretty sure I saw Warrior on Gragas, or whatever the AD item was at some point, but that could be my memory playing tricks on me.

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

February 04 2016 17:42 GMT

#212

It is an item that gives ad on a champion without a single atk speed item or ad scaling ability. Even if you are going ad bruiser cinderhulk would make more sense lol.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

February 04 2016 17:57 GMT

#213

okay so i did a little reading and apparently his W used to grant him bonus dmg on next attack based on % total AD. that might have been where that came from, but i dont feel like digging through old pro games and whatnot

but point is just mentioning what i thought i remembered seeing like a year ago

Fildun

Netherlands4124 Posts

February 04 2016 18:22 GMT

#214

On February 05 2016 02:09 Ansibled wrote:
Gragas buff is to replace purple smite.

Bring back purple smite please.

Gragas never needed purple smite though.

Eiii

United States2566 Posts

February 04 2016 18:26 GMT

#215

Seeing quinn jungle in a LCS game fills me with vindication

Zess

Adun Toridas!9144 Posts

February 04 2016 20:10 GMT

#216

On February 05 2016 01:52 739 wrote:
http://puu.sh/mVnPq.jpeg

Leaked 6.3 patch notes.
RIP Graves? Or it still makes him worth abusing?
I love Gragas changes, that Q slow and E AoE on 250 radius is nice.

Don't think that will kill him, but it is a definitely needed nerf. Graves does way too much damage right now.

The lag on the Q hitting a wall probably doesn't ruin him that hard; in lane you're still using it to zone people off of being able to CS ranged creeps under tower as easily, and in jungle fights people can't really escape the detonation zone.
Nerfing his stun on rift scuttler just takes some free money out of his kit, but you can still knock it back into the wall to land easy Qs and hitting it with all 4 shotgun hits still does a billion damage.

ADC Graves is probably taking the biggest hit.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

February 04 2016 20:15 GMT

#217

What ADCs can be played mid? I've been enjoying playing Koggles lately and was thinking of just sticking with that role for a while, queuing Bot/Mid and just picking AD mids. I see Corki a lot in mid and Jhin lately, but who else? Obviously anyone is fine if you play them well enough, but what's popular or seen to be effective? Blue Ez? Cait?

lilwisper

United States2515 Posts

February 04 2016 20:23 GMT

#218

On February 05 2016 05:15 Requizen wrote:
What ADCs can be played mid? I've been enjoying playing Koggles lately and was thinking of just sticking with that role for a while, queuing Bot/Mid and just picking AD mids. I see Corki a lot in mid and Jhin lately, but who else? Obviously anyone is fine if you play them well enough, but what's popular or seen to be effective? Blue Ez? Cait?

Varus and Ez are the main ones I have seen.