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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
December 19 2015 05:45 GMT
#1881
I don't think it's really fair to call Shernfire an import. Dude came to NA from a crappy region without a team and was playing on a team really without a mid. I'd say immigrant is a more acceptable term for what he did.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 10:29:14
December 19 2015 10:29 GMT
#1882
On December 19 2015 12:52 Saradin wrote:
http://www.lolesports.com/en_US/articles/competitive-ruling-chris-shim-geon-woo-ninja-noh-jin-yong-fury-lee
So Ninja, Fury, and TDK's owner dinged for tampering. That's one way to confirm that it's Fury heading to TDK.

WTF????

Why so long a ban.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 19 2015 11:27 GMT
#1883
RIP TDK.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 19 2015 12:11 GMT
#1884
it's still really weird to me that players can't talk to other teams before their contract is up, especially in off-season and that teamowners can just decide to not tell the players if other teams approach them through the "official" channels. Is that normal in american sports?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 19 2015 13:23 GMT
#1885
On December 19 2015 21:11 AsnSensation wrote:
it's still really weird to me that players can't talk to other teams before their contract is up, especially in off-season and that teamowners can just decide to not tell the players if other teams approach them through the "official" channels. Is that normal in american sports?

normal or not it is fucking stupid
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 19 2015 13:56 GMT
#1886
On December 19 2015 21:11 AsnSensation wrote:
it's still really weird to me that players can't talk to other teams before their contract is up, especially in off-season and that teamowners can just decide to not tell the players if other teams approach them through the "official" channels. Is that normal in american sports?


Technically it's normal in European sports as well but what happens is players all have Agents that just have "dinner" with each other and discuss things to get around this. Clubs kind of ignore this as they all use it so no one wants to shut it down unless there's some stink they don't like. E-sports doesn't have this but Riot has a fetish with copying aspects of sports.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 15:37:41
December 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#1887
On December 19 2015 22:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 21:11 AsnSensation wrote:
it's still really weird to me that players can't talk to other teams before their contract is up, especially in off-season and that teamowners can just decide to not tell the players if other teams approach them through the "official" channels. Is that normal in american sports?


Technically it's normal in European sports as well but what happens is players all have Agents that just have "dinner" with each other and discuss things to get around this. Clubs kind of ignore this as they all use it so no one wants to shut it down unless there's some stink they don't like. E-sports doesn't have this but Riot has a fetish with copying aspects of sports.

When a player enters his last 6 months of contract, any club can negotiate directly with him. If LoL were considered a sport in Europe and instead of TDK let's say it was UOL, what Riot did in this case wouldn't be legal since Fury was near the end of his contract
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 16:01:40
December 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#1888
I get why its a problem to talk to a player mid season. For example when the team a player is playing against in relegation is offering him a contract that is obviously wrong. But the whole off season should be fair game when a players contract is about to run out. Like from worlds finals to first day of LCS players should be allowed to be contacted directly.
Off-season = best season
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 16:52:25
December 19 2015 16:52 GMT
#1889
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500441-sonic-is-sued-for-fraud

Hmn, a 4th sponsorless team maybe?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 19 2015 17:00 GMT
#1890
Sonic, our lord and savior sued? Damn.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 19 2015 17:06 GMT
#1891
On December 20 2015 01:52 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500441-sonic-is-sued-for-fraud

Hmn, a 4th sponsorless team maybe?

"Korean LoL esports is in a much more stable state than it's ever been before." - Riot Magus

oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 17:07:51
December 19 2015 17:07 GMT
#1892
Who would've thought, lol.
Wax is a true nostradamus in a hindsight.

Don't think it's rip TDK though, level of midlane in CS isn't that high, so just waiting for Fury and getting carried by Seraph like it's TDKCS2015 should work out just fine.
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Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
December 19 2015 17:09 GMT
#1893
At some point, the onus really has to be put on the players to get legal representation for themselves. It's not like the idea of sports agents is new.

The SBENU news makes me wonder about the state of finances outside of chaebols in Korea. At least, wealth interested in investing in esports. Is the most reliable financial backing there really essentially the whims of a limited number of clan-based conglomerates?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 19 2015 19:01 GMT
#1894
On December 20 2015 01:52 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500441-sonic-is-sued-for-fraud

Hmn, a 4th sponsorless team maybe?


They can go back to Prime.. oh wait
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Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
December 19 2015 20:05 GMT
#1895
On December 19 2015 22:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 21:11 AsnSensation wrote:
it's still really weird to me that players can't talk to other teams before their contract is up, especially in off-season and that teamowners can just decide to not tell the players if other teams approach them through the "official" channels. Is that normal in american sports?


Technically it's normal in European sports as well but what happens is players all have Agents that just have "dinner" with each other and discuss things to get around this. Clubs kind of ignore this as they all use it so no one wants to shut it down unless there's some stink they don't like. E-sports doesn't have this but Riot has a fetish with copying aspects of sports.



You are technically not wrong agents do play a huge role in European sports, but most Sports have a like 6 month graceperiod where you can talk contracts with other teams' players if they contract is running out within those 6 months.
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 20:23:28
December 19 2015 20:23 GMT
#1896
Which reminds me, NBA has a weird version of that. There's the official courting period where contracts have finished and free agents can freely talk to whoever, but no pen can be put to paper until some later date. The intent behind it is to formally give players time to think over their options, but it does lead to weird shenanigans. Like the DeAndre Jordan stuff that happened this summer where he gave the verbal commitment to the Mavericks but then later re-signed with the Clippers.
Which also serves as the most recent example of verbal commitment meaning not a freaking thing in US sports, for that matter, referring back to the Svenskeren stuff.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 20:37:33
December 19 2015 20:37 GMT
#1897
Apparently, there is a new team with Satorius/Impaler/CozQ (bonobo is him, right?)/Woolite/Wendelbo.

Doesn't seem like team which is going to casually play games for half a year, so probably the buy-in?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
December 19 2015 20:46 GMT
#1898
Did anyone post the rumoured Roccat roster? http://www.dailydot.com/esports/roccat-2016-roster-fredy122-airwaks/

Fredy/Airwaks/Betsy/Jebus/Gosu
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 19 2015 20:47 GMT
#1899
On December 20 2015 05:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Apparently, there is a new team with Satorius/Impaler/CozQ (bonobo is him, right?)/Woolite/Wendelbo.

Doesn't seem like team which is going to casually play games for half a year, so probably the buy-in?

Cozq/woolite/wendelbo means they have denial's spot.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 21:17:48
December 19 2015 21:17 GMT
#1900
On December 20 2015 05:47 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 05:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Apparently, there is a new team with Satorius/Impaler/CozQ (bonobo is him, right?)/Woolite/Wendelbo.

Doesn't seem like team which is going to casually play games for half a year, so probably the buy-in?

Cozq/woolite/wendelbo means they have denial's spot.


Tfw you're right.
What is that team which Wickd is joining though in CS?

CPHW's slot is probably gone, mouz has Beansu, SK's non-SuNo Korean isn't toplane?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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