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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 17 2015 01:53 GMT
#481
I think the takeaway from the past year and a half or so of roster decisions is that CJ.LoL is not that good of an org.
XDG Mata
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 02:05:26
November 17 2015 02:03 GMT
#482
On November 17 2015 10:52 bbc23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 10:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 17 2015 10:14 bbc23 wrote:
This may be an unpopular opinion, but good. They weren't able to develop any talent that was retained aside from Coco. There's plenty of really good former CJ players playing on really good teams that they let go in favor of Space/Ambition/etc. The organization needs a total overhaul.


It's not like coaching staff made Flame and Swift leave or whatever.
If you're getting offered numbers those two were offered, you're accepting it.

It's not just them though they are obviously the 2 biggest that were let go. GBM, Lira, Emperor, Gunza and Baeme were only under their organization fairly recently and showed flashes. Hell Cpt Jack looked better than Space for good amounts of time after he left. We don't know if Swift/Flame would have even left if they were given the starting spots (yes I know they were offered huge deals in China but fair amounts of Koreans have stayed for less money in good orgs).


GBM was 2-tricks mid in CJ and neither him and BaeMe are close to CoCo plus CJ Entus has BDD to play in Summer if CoCo finally decides to leave to Chinese pastures.
Emperor and Daydream were getting beaten in Brazil, and hell, I'd say that Space had better Season 5 than Emperor. Ambition jungle is bad but not like Daydream could salvage it and Swift was already stolen by Hiro.
Gunza left for school, I think and Lira was in CJ Entus Frost for like a month if not less, before getting dumped by Swift and leaving to LSPL.

Making an assumption that CJ Entus had to take Piglet in 2013, keep inSec/dade and start Flame/inSec/dade/Piglet/Madlife team there is just surreal, players don't have same skills every year. Many guys who left the different teams became better, many became worse, but it's just how life works.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 02:19:00
November 17 2015 02:16 GMT
#483
eh that cj staff firing is surprising. their recent results have been meh sure, but for long stretches of last season they were a very good team capable of pushing skt in a series. that cj was just the absolute max potential of that roster though. any improvement from that level would involve roster moves.

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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 17 2015 02:50 GMT
#484
On November 17 2015 09:56 Mensol wrote:
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On November 17 2015 08:01 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 17 2015 06:34 Mensol wrote:
I just read that Bunny is a free agent atm.

Who needs a decent shotcaller anyway, right NA?

I mean GV is selling their slot, so with no owners and 2 players missing jumping ship is probably a safer bet than waiting for the team to get bought and then waiting for the team to pick over the NA FA leftovers.

It's blowing my mind that no one contesting Bunny. He is the best shotcaller along with Hai in NA.

Well according to GV it was all of the team making decisions by the end of the split, but yeah it is surprising. Still, I think he'll definitely end up on a team by the start of the split.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 17 2015 02:56 GMT
#485
when you take into consideration the import slot, I'd have taken Bunny over KasSing.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
November 17 2015 03:39 GMT
#486
On November 17 2015 11:56 Slusher wrote:
when you take into consideration the import slot, I'd have taken Bunny over KasSing.

I'm not sure TSM could've gotten an english-speaking toplaner who was commesurately better than Hauntzer in the same way that kasing is better than Bunny. English-speaking toplaners are without exception inferior to top-tier Korean toplaners, and the very best english-speaking toplaners, like Huni (I think he has an okay english by now), are taken. Hauntzer is pretty close to the best english-speaking toplaner TSM could've realistically gotten, IMO.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 17 2015 03:46 GMT
#487
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 17 2015 09:13 GMT
#488
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3t2zq0/smittyj_g2_toplaner_playing_on_na/

More EU players in NA hype?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 17 2015 09:37 GMT
#489
On November 17 2015 11:50 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:56 Mensol wrote:
On November 17 2015 08:01 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 17 2015 06:34 Mensol wrote:
I just read that Bunny is a free agent atm.

Who needs a decent shotcaller anyway, right NA?

I mean GV is selling their slot, so with no owners and 2 players missing jumping ship is probably a safer bet than waiting for the team to get bought and then waiting for the team to pick over the NA FA leftovers.

It's blowing my mind that no one contesting Bunny. He is the best shotcaller along with Hai in NA.

Well according to GV it was all of the team making decisions by the end of the split, but yeah it is surprising. Still, I think he'll definitely end up on a team by the start of the split.


No wonder they started doing so poorly.
neulin
Profile Joined January 2015
Lithuania45 Posts
November 17 2015 09:50 GMT
#490
On November 17 2015 18:13 IMoperator wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3t2zq0/smittyj_g2_toplaner_playing_on_na/

More EU players in NA hype?


I wonder if that has do something with CSGO. G2 got Dig star player. Seems better exchange for G2 if that was a case.
"You can either try to be the best or you can suck a cock" FORG1VEN
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2015 10:47 GMT
#491
http://www.goldper10.com/article/2807-translations-beyond-the-match-part-ii.html
Part two of the OMG interview for those interested
Glorious SEA doto
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 17 2015 17:46 GMT
#492
Some more leaks about Elements. Wonder what is Froggen doing.

Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 18 2015 01:04 GMT
#493
http://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/4854
Longzhu looking to make IM no longer suck; current targets are Spirit, Easyhoon and Mata.
Glorious SEA doto
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
November 18 2015 01:31 GMT
#494
So the true melding of Korean infrastructure and Chinese money?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 18 2015 01:57 GMT
#495
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 18 2015 01:57 GMT
#496
On November 17 2015 18:37 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 11:50 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:56 Mensol wrote:
On November 17 2015 08:01 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 17 2015 06:34 Mensol wrote:
I just read that Bunny is a free agent atm.

Who needs a decent shotcaller anyway, right NA?

I mean GV is selling their slot, so with no owners and 2 players missing jumping ship is probably a safer bet than waiting for the team to get bought and then waiting for the team to pick over the NA FA leftovers.

It's blowing my mind that no one contesting Bunny. He is the best shotcaller along with Hai in NA.

Well according to GV it was all of the team making decisions by the end of the split, but yeah it is surprising. Still, I think he'll definitely end up on a team by the start of the split.


No wonder they started doing so poorly.

by "by the end of the split" I mean they were being interviewed during their win streak and that's what they said, not that they suddenly changed for playoffs or something.

To clarify, Bunny said he was the shotcaller for the first couple weeks/in scrims but the team said that during matches everyone kinda gets hyped and they all start talking/making calls a lot
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 18 2015 02:40 GMT
#497
On November 18 2015 10:04 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/4854
Longzhu looking to make IM no longer suck; current targets are Spirit, Easyhoon and Mata.


At least that means that a title sponsor is paying IM this time
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 18 2015 04:45 GMT
#498
I doubt they have THAT amount of money for both Easyhoon and Mata.
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neulin
Profile Joined January 2015
Lithuania45 Posts
November 18 2015 06:48 GMT
#499
Wow that means frozen finally free.
"You can either try to be the best or you can suck a cock" FORG1VEN
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 18 2015 07:18 GMT
#500
Frozen free from Lilac prison
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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