EPTPro scene rumor mill 2016 Pre-Season - Page 16
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 12 2015 02:26 AlterKot wrote: I lost track, did he know that owner plans to sell the roster? We only learned about it in that letter from H2k's lawyer to Reginald where they threaten to sue him for damages in case that sale will fall through. So quite possible he did not know http://imgur.com/YD3M55s | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
I'm still trying to process the letter and determine if whether that was seriously written by the lawyer in question, not exactly seriously written by him, or faked by Rich. I kind of have the idea of emailing the law firm and asking about it, but I'm not quite sure on how bad an idea that is. Also, players clearly need agents for the legal knowledge. Please, more money into the game so that the cut for agents are large enough to make it a viable career. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 12 2015 02:31 Redox wrote: We only learned about it in that letter from H2k's lawyer to Reginald where they threaten to sue him for damages in case that sale will fall through. So quite possible he did not know http://imgur.com/YD3M55s Since this says he has a 2 year employment contract that can't just mean the 'verbal' thing right? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 12 2015 02:48 Ansibled wrote: Since this says he has a 2 year employment contract that can't just mean the 'verbal' thing right? If the contract has already been signed then what do they want Svenskeren to sign? I rather think this still refers to the agreement via Skype to sign which H2k regard as legally binding. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 12 2015 02:45 krndandaman wrote: From my understanding it was -H2K starts talks with Sven, TSM starts talks with Sven -TSM's offer is a conditional one, one that requires him to tryout for his spot and could have him dropped from poor performance. H2K's is a non-conditional starter spot with more pay. -Sven decides to verbally agree to sign with H2K since it's objectively a safer, better deal. -TSM then hears of this, panics, then decides to revise their offer to a non conditional starter spot. -Sven is enticed, tells H2K he isn't sure anymore. -H2K's turn to panic, and they up their offer with even more money. -Sven is still confused about what he wants. -H2K frustrated with his flipflopping, this time strongarms Sven -Plan backfires, Sven has an averse reaction and leans towards TSM -H2K upset because A) Sven verbally agreed B) TSM just offers the bare minimum to win over Sven due to their big brand power. -Somewhere along the line this is aired out. -TSM/Regi upset because A) They are sure they did nothing legally wrong but H2K is calling them out on it B) Feels H2K is forcing their way to getting Sven I can see both sides here. Kinda sucks for H2K since if TSM gets involved like this, there's hardly any way for H2K to win barring them forking waaay more money. H2K showed more interest early on, offered more money, and is located in Europe. But then TSM can just adjust their offer to the bare minimum and lure Sven away at their whim. TSM brand+streaming money too hard to resist. Also Sven was being very immature with the way he was handling business. Frustrating stuff. Also sucks for TSM cause H2K is going batshit threatening to sue them and such when they didn't break any 'rules'. I mean it's a bit of a dick move to constantly update your offer as soon as Sven says he's leaning the other way, but that's common business. The one H2K should be blaming is not TSM, but Sven and how the state of free agent negotiations in LoL is (no professional sports agents to represent these players and instead you deal with immature teens directly). Also sucks for Sven because he's young, he's stupid, and he doesn't exactly know what's good for him. But at the same time, it feels threatening when H2K Rich is treating him like some product instead of a person and flat out treats him as if he's a child who can't make decisions for himself (which may be true, but you don't want to treat your prospective employee like that and alienate him). All 3 have valid reasons for being upset and have done some things that can upset other parties, but pretty sure H2K made the biggest fuck up by basically lashing out at all parties. If they really felt they were wronged, they should have gotten legal counseling and/or gone to Riot BEFORE ruining their relationship with Sven. Even if Sven joins their team, he's not going to be a very motivated employee. Well said. Sums it up nicely and gives a neutral view I can't help but have this image in my head of two young lovers cuddling on a grassy hill. The girl finally said yes to the guys proposal for marriage and now they celebrate it by watching the sunset. Then suddenly the girls friend appears out of no where. He tells her "you're not right for him, come with me". She doesn't believe him telling her fiance she prefers him. The friend can't accept this. He pulls down his pants and whips out his massive cock. The girl stares in amazement then says "??? srry bby I go". At least that's how I think it went down. | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
Except DeAndre's 27 while Sven's 19, so Sven can be excused as still a kid while DeAndre is regarded as a manchild. It's also missing some shenanigans of representatives from both teams rushing over to the player's residence as fast as they can, with one team successfully barring themselves in and playing cards all night. It was surreal, especially with the media constantly updating the situation. Even comes complete with Chris 'MULTIPLE SOURCES' Broussard making another screwup. And there wasn't a team planning to sell on the assumption of having a signed roster. Clearly, this situation needs Jacob Wolf playing the part of Broussard to report some update, have it be vehemently denied by either Regi or Rich, and then afterwards apologize. Edit: http://clgaming.net/news/737 Tony/Zikz has been promoted to head coach of CLG | ||
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EsanLOL
479 Posts
On November 12 2015 01:29 RouaF wrote: You know there's a lack of up and coming players in NA and EU when organisations are fighting so hard over Svenskeren... Yes I know the kid is good but THAT good ? I don't think so. Also he's known for his attitude issues. Putting that kind of money and legal effort into him seems insane considering he's still counted as an import for TSM. Meanwhile on the other side of the world it seems KR still has a ton of unknown players that are easily lcs caliber without even having a professional environment around them. Watch the kespa cup ! Just from talking to some managers and what not, I got the impression that a lot of Koreans are actually less willing to go abroad than they were a year ago. Orgs are making offers (see GBM situation) but many aren't interested. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
ROCCATducks, Gamers Squared and Unicorns of Love have made offers to forg1ven but he'd rather go to NA. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Instead of Taiwan, Europe is getting ravaged. :> | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 12 2015 09:40 Caiada wrote: Three EU teams had trashcan tier ADCs in EU last split and not one org can make an offer persuasive enough to keep Forgiven there. If you dont have the money you dont have the money. People in the know keep saying how incredibly higher salaries are in NA compared to EU, especially in the coming season. So no surprise here. But it is rather sad for EU. It is kinda a China / Korea situation only that Europe does not have the pool to make up for the losses like Korea. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Now if Taiwan got poached they'd be fucked; mostly because Garena banned all the bloody talent. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 12 2015 09:56 Fusilero wrote: I think EU has the talent to make up for an exodus. It's just the talent hate eachother and are more devoted to XD than they are the game. Now if Taiwan got poached they'd be fucked; mostly because Garena banned all the bloody talent. Well the mindset is part of the quality of a player. I guess it can be changed, but in most cases it will not. Someone like Amin will never be a top player. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On November 12 2015 10:03 Redox wrote: Well the mindset is part of the quality of a player. I guess it can be changed, but in most cases it will not. Someone like Amin will never be a top player. ayy speaking of players with bad mindsets what happened to k0u? wasnt he like really good? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
only with more acne | ||
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