"We had a winning formula, so it was time to replace all of the best elements in it for something worse. This will make us stronger."

What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger, is that the rationale Zikz?

Majax

France816 Posts

November 02 2015 02:21 GMT

If Freeze doesn't make it onto a top-tier LCS team I don't even... I mean how could you prefer WT to Freeze ? Really ?

Freeze has the hunger to win and more skills to offer than WT ever had.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

November 02 2015 02:22 GMT

On November 02 2015 11:21 Majax wrote:
If Freeze doesn't make it onto a top-tier LCS team I don't even... I mean how could you prefer WT to Freeze ? Really ?

Freeze has the hunger to win and more skills to offer than WT ever had.

I really don't think CLG can afford Freeze.

NA investments are pretty crazy at the moment.

Saradin

456 Posts

November 02 2015 02:24 GMT

#10

Yea; if anything, Freeze has the skills and reputation to command better from the new incoming owners than what CLG can offer.

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

November 02 2015 02:29 GMT

#11

Yeah I'm not sure who CLG can get who would be better. Even if CLG had the money for Freeze/Forgiven would they be interested in moving halfway across the world to join current Clown Logic? Unless you get a foreigner, WT is one of the better options, certainly worth having in for tryouts.

Who knows? Turtle has been crap for a while, but different environments often bring the best out of players and the guy certainly is talented.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

November 02 2015 02:30 GMT

#12

On November 02 2015 11:29 Amarok wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure who CLG can get who would be better. Even if CLG had the money for Freeze/Forgiven would they be interested in moving halfway across the world to join current Clown Logic? Unless you get a foreigner, WT is one of the better options, certainly worth having in for tryouts.

Who knows? Turtle has been crap for a while, but different environments often bring the best out of players and the guy certainly is talented.

I'd prefer CLG go with Stixxay, but at this point maybe they can't even keep him.

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

November 02 2015 02:31 GMT

#13

On November 02 2015 11:30 Ansibled wrote:

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I'd prefer CLG go with Stixxay, but at this point maybe they can't even keep him.

Yeah possibly. I haven't seen him play so I can't say if the hype is real.

Mensol

14536 Posts

November 02 2015 02:33 GMT

#14

you know what would make it even more odd?

Aphroo retiring and then CLG picking up Xpecial.

oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

November 02 2015 02:34 GMT

#15

On November 02 2015 11:10 Caiada wrote:
I hope they at least let Zion off the burning ship. He doesn't deserve another CST/Dig.

ZionSpartan deserves to struggle at least one more split for his endeavours at Worlds.
But yea, rumours are that he didn't make it to TSM, so probably he's staying.

Idk, why isn't CLG going with Stixxay but w/e, lol.
WildTurtle is still fine for anything in NA unless you want to challenge international level play.

Caiada

United States3052 Posts

November 02 2015 02:41 GMT

#16

I forgot they had Stixxay.

He and otter both looked legit in the challenger series, at least. otter looked mid-tier on NME when they weren't self-destructing and Stixxay was already better than he was and looked like he had more potential.

So clearly CLG will go with Wildturtle for maximum comedy.

EsanLOL

479 Posts

November 02 2015 02:41 GMT

#17

This annoys me so much. I wouldn't mind a rebuilding season based around younger, hungrier talent (players like Peanut/Shrimp/Hard, Huhi, Stixxay/LOD, along those lines, just spitballing). But this roster is pretty much an immediate downgrade in every sense, and there's not really any long-term play here either, I doubt Turtle and Xmithie show up as their S3 selves again.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

November 02 2015 02:42 GMT

#18

Swapping ADCs is always a great idea :^)

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

November 02 2015 04:41 GMT

#19

On November 02 2015 11:33 Mensol wrote:
you know what would make it even more odd?

Aphroo retiring and then CLG picking up Xpecial.

Petting zoo bot lane 2?

Harem

United States11393 Posts

November 02 2015 06:53 GMT

#20

there's also the rumor going around that stixxay is joining the team froggen is supposedly on in challenger so cant be clg adc

DELLZOR 84 points 4 days ago*
Played against them in 5s and I'm pretty sure their team is
Top: Lourlo
Jungle: Hard
Mid: Froggen
AD: Stixxay
Support: Sheep
EDIT: Mid is probably Froggen considering how their mid laner, OSBeaver ALWAYS upgrades his trinket AND OSBeaver / Froggen ALWAYS gets homeguard ASAP.
EDIT #2: Actually not sure on who the jungler is, sorry mom.
EDIT #3: Positive the jungler is Hard considering they both have their summoner spells on the same buttons and both have Sight Stone / titanic hydra on 5. Mystery solved.