[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 47

On May 21 2015 18:05 killerdog wrote:

The entire point of league is to attempt to predict the future. That's called decision making.

You take into account all the things you know about the situation, and use your base knowledge of the game and experience to try and predict how the game plays out, and based off that you make decisions to favourably alter that flow.

I mean I guess you could literally flip a coin at every single decision fork, because "the future is unknowable!!!" but against all odds, I predict that flashing under their tower at level 1 might kill me.

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That's a fundamental question as to whether you trust your own judgement in a game. If your jungler is obviously better then you, or if your mid laner is obviously better then you, then you might listen to them. I (generally) won't try and steal a buff from scip if he actually has a logical reason for wanting it. And in the same vein, if i'm jungling and a mid laner makes an actual argument for needing blue, that, after thinking through, makes sense to me and changes my position, then I'd give him the buff. But this is all information you take into account in deciding whether taking or giving blue is the best course towards winning.

If, after taking all these things into account, my analysis is still that me taking it is better, then I should do what I think is right. Either it's the right decision and it goes well, or it's the wrong decision and you learn from that and grow as a player, and using that knowledge make a more informed decision next time.

If you think something through all the way, taking everything into account, then do the opposite action to what you think is right, then I don't know what to tell you :S

On May 21 2015 19:28 Fildun wrote:
I agree with the whole blue buff thing, I just think that ceding decisions isn't necessarily a bad thing. The rest I completely agree with.

On May 21 2015 23:36 Scip wrote:

Well, in soloQ, it goes like this
how do you expect to get out of diamond5 when you, against your better judgment, follow the decisionmaking of dia5 players

On May 21 2015 23:36 Scip wrote:

Well, in soloQ, it goes like this
how do you expect to get out of diamond5 when you, against your better judgment, follow the decisionmaking of dia5 players

On May 22 2015 02:19 killerdog wrote:
with olaf and eve taken, scip resorts to the next level strats
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 22 2015 02:29 Slayer91 wrote:


ive never seen a team feed so hard so early i dont even know
last time i checked it was 36 deaths on scips team in 19 minutes
masters orianna 5 daeth in 10 min

On May 22 2015 01:50 AsnSensation wrote:
So happy viktor is back, time for some more freelo now that lb is banned in 80% of the games.

On May 22 2015 03:08 ConanTroutman wrote:

I'll have to try him. I just started to get really good at Leblanc and it's sad that you can so rarely play her due to getting banned all the time. That said, it's the first time I've played a champ where I actually feel like it's not fair to play against haha. I'm surprised her win rate isn't that high, not sure if maybe it's due to her having a steep learning curve compared other champs?

On May 22 2015 03:26 AsnSensation wrote:


well a champion that is perceived to be faceroll and op but actually isn't will never have a high winrate because a lot of people will pick her but aren't good on her. She's definitely one of the strongest mid picks at the moment but not freewin, especially if you are willing to play cho or diana into her.

On May 22 2015 02:26 Alaric wrote:
Geez Cheep, my "tank" post was obviously not to be taken verbatim since that's a banned topic.
That was a jab at the "blue passing" discussion that's been circling for a good dozen pages now without really moving much.

On May 22 2015 03:08 ConanTroutman wrote:

I'll have to try him. I just started to get really good at Leblanc and it's sad that you can so rarely play her due to getting banned all the time. That said, it's the first time I've played a champ where I actually feel like it's not fair to play against haha. I'm surprised her win rate isn't that high, not sure if maybe it's due to her having a steep learning curve compared other champs?

On May 22 2015 04:08 ConanTroutman wrote:

Funnily enough I've played against Cho a few times since picking her up and solo killed them in lane every time. Now, this has been fairly early each game (probably ~lvl 6) and at high gold/low plat MMR but I can see how he would counter her later in the game once his health pool is high enough to not get burtsted. No one plays Diana so I haven't been able to try that matchup yet. Normally have the most difficulty against Azir oddly enough.