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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:46 wei2coolman wrote: zorozero alone would make that team beast as fuck. But what if Kennen gets nerfed again. It doesn't even matter, who will play toplane or jungle, as long as Krepo is shotcaller, this team won't win LCS and get out of groups at Worlds. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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jupiterstorm
Singapore74 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
This will lead to that the player doesnt respect his team mates and this is in my opinion the reason why elements is playing badly. Players don't need to be best buddies forever but they need to respect each other. | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On April 08 2015 18:07 Chexx wrote: In my opinion the problem is when a player is in so much control of the team that he basically does all the management/coaching decisions. You will get a big problem. It puts the player on a pedestal while the other players are below him. This will lead to that the player doesnt respect his team mates and this is in my opinion the reason why elements is playing badly. Players don't need to be best buddies forever but they need to respect each other. I agree. I think the reason Elements could not bounce back from a shitty start of season has a lot to do with Froggen being at the helm of the team, and having too much say in what goes. It's important for management to have a bigger say in team issues than players, or else a toxic team environment develops, where players can get too big to topple. I think a similar problem is/was present in CLG, where doublelift essentially became the CLG brand, and more than likely had too much influence on the direction of the team. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
This stability might be so influencal that even a team with high level players aka elements can fall appart if this stability is missing. Every team with good or bad players needs the good foundation to build on. And that starts with the proper choaching, the understanding of how the team has to play, the strenght and weaknesses that can be played and used for an advantage. Just going into the game and looking what froggen wants to do aka 40 minutes of turtle then go in and win might be a stone age mentality that even copenhagen wolves have evolved out of. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
They are nothing without Rekkles. Froggego and his friends should retire asap. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Majax
France816 Posts
On April 08 2015 09:31 orzeu wrote: I have super low opinion on Dexter, especially after playoffs/end of split in NA and his soloq record when can't even climb to challenger while playing 24/7. I blame Link for Dexter's failure in CLG. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Oh right, it was totally Link fault that dexter went from being top-2 in region to being bot-3 by last 2 months. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On April 08 2015 22:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Oh right, it was totally Link fault that dexter went from being top-2 in region to being bot-3 by last 2 months. It was the CLG atmosphere that did that and it's Link who creates CLG atmosphere thus it's Links fault. I miss dexter  | ||
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Majax
France816 Posts
So what left for him was mid, and as soon as athmosphere went to shit, Link started derping and Dexter started underperforming. Woulda have been in HSGG's shoes, I woulda tried to keep Dexter in the roster and kicked Link out since Dexter was the best jungler CLG ever had, and Link already got enough 2nd chances. But I guess their decision turned out ok... :> | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On April 08 2015 22:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Oh right, it was totally Link fault that dexter went from being top-2 in region to being bot-3 by last 2 months. Elise got nerfed :^) | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 08 2015 22:31 Majax wrote: Well, he couldn't create synergy with top 'cause... No-one could and different language blablabla... So what left for him was mid, and as soon as athmosphere went to shit, Link started derping and Dexter started underperforming. Woulda have been in HSGG's shoes, I woulda tried to keep Dexter in the roster and kicked Link out since Dexter was the best jungler CLG ever had, and Link already got enough 2nd chances. But I guess their decision turned out ok... :> Best jungler CLG ever had is Saint, not dexter. Freaking Link, forced Riot to ban Elise. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Majax
France816 Posts
On April 08 2015 23:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Best jungler CLG ever had is Saint, not dexter. Oh yeah, I forgot 'bout the old man, my bad. 2nd one then. | ||
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Mag1c
Canada180 Posts
On April 08 2015 18:07 Chexx wrote: In my opinion the problem is when a player is in so much control of the team that he basically does all the management/coaching decisions. You will get a big problem. It puts the player on a pedestal while the other players are below him. This will lead to that the player doesnt respect his team mates and this is in my opinion the reason why elements is playing badly. Players don't need to be best buddies forever but they need to respect each other. This is exactly what I was about to make a post to say. Player ownership/control of a team is a bad idea, and old-fashioned. It won't work because it neuters the coach and because it reduces the accountability of the player-owner. When Reginald stepped down from the TSM roster, it was the best thing he could have done to ensure the long-term success of his team. I worry Origen having similar issues as Elements, but we'll see. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On April 08 2015 17:19 TitusVI wrote: elements is like clg. the whole barrel is rotten from the top to bottom. I was going to say the same thing - Elements has a similar feel to CLG in terms of management issues. It's like you can take the team out of CLG but you can't take the CLG out of a team. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On April 08 2015 22:10 AlterKot wrote: It was the CLG atmosphere that did that and it's Link who creates CLG atmosphere thus it's Links fault. I miss dexter it was pretty much dexter critizised link ingame and from that point on link fuckd dexter out of the team and link even accepted the fact that this will cause the whole team to implode. dexter had no chance. maybe CLG deserves all the shit they have to endure. | ||
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Mag1c
Canada180 Posts
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