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On April 30 2015 00:49 AlterKot wrote:
One of my favorite Thorin quote (or was it Monte? idk) is that EU is so messed up that if you just put every EU LCS player name in a hat and started randomly pulling them out, you would end up with better league than the one we currently have. And somehow it's looking worse and worse. No way we'll ever have season as competitive as S3 Summer :/
Well he's not wrong. EU teams are just morons. I think only Fnatic are reasonably smart and they were forced into that situation after Xpeke left. Who knows if they would have still kept him even after being so mediocre for so long. Problem with EU is all the dumb players have too much say. Don't have guys like Regi that just don't give a fuck what players say.
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On April 30 2015 00:55 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 00:49 AlterKot wrote:
One of my favorite Thorin quote (or was it Monte? idk) is that EU is so messed up that if you just put every EU LCS player name in a hat and started randomly pulling them out, you would end up with better league than the one we currently have. And somehow it's looking worse and worse. No way we'll ever have season as competitive as S3 Summer :/ That is mostly because Thorin and others have certain pipe dreams and get mad when their predictions turn out to be nonsense. Obviously its because the players are stupid then. I for one am quite happy that it looks more like Incarnation will stay in EU. I also dont see why Rekkles would stream now and not simply go to SK.
He's contracted with Elements until November.
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On April 30 2015 00:56 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 00:49 AlterKot wrote:
One of my favorite Thorin quote (or was it Monte? idk) is that EU is so messed up that if you just put every EU LCS player name in a hat and started randomly pulling them out, you would end up with better league than the one we currently have. And somehow it's looking worse and worse. No way we'll ever have season as competitive as S3 Summer :/ Well he's not wrong. EU teams are just morons. I think only Fnatic are reasonably smart and they were forced into that situation after Xpeke left. Who knows if they would have still kept him even after being so mediocre for so long. Problem with EU is all the dumb players have too much say. Don't have guys like Regi that just don't give a fuck what players say.
Imo Fnatic team management was simply very lucky that the team they assembled last minute worked out. Also I think the scouting was done by Yellowstar.
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Yellowstar for Steeelback and Febiven, combo of Yellowstar and their manager for Huni, IIRC.
This links to a series of articles on Fnatic's rebuild, although Steeelback/Febiven only get a quick mention somewhere.
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On April 30 2015 00:57 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 00:55 Redox wrote:On April 30 2015 00:49 AlterKot wrote:
One of my favorite Thorin quote (or was it Monte? idk) is that EU is so messed up that if you just put every EU LCS player name in a hat and started randomly pulling them out, you would end up with better league than the one we currently have. And somehow it's looking worse and worse. No way we'll ever have season as competitive as S3 Summer :/ That is mostly because Thorin and others have certain pipe dreams and get mad when their predictions turn out to be nonsense. Obviously its because the players are stupid then. I for one am quite happy that it looks more like Incarnation will stay in EU. I also dont see why Rekkles would stream now and not simply go to SK. He's contracted with Elements until November.
Then it might be a matter of negotiating the transfer fee. "Threatening" to stay on the team and just stream might be part of that. Because I doubt EL wants to pay his salary while he just streams.
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On April 30 2015 01:02 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 00:56 Numy wrote:On April 30 2015 00:49 AlterKot wrote:
One of my favorite Thorin quote (or was it Monte? idk) is that EU is so messed up that if you just put every EU LCS player name in a hat and started randomly pulling them out, you would end up with better league than the one we currently have. And somehow it's looking worse and worse. No way we'll ever have season as competitive as S3 Summer :/ Well he's not wrong. EU teams are just morons. I think only Fnatic are reasonably smart and they were forced into that situation after Xpeke left. Who knows if they would have still kept him even after being so mediocre for so long. Problem with EU is all the dumb players have too much say. Don't have guys like Regi that just don't give a fuck what players say. Imo Fnatic team management was simply very lucky that the team they assembled last minute worked out. Also I think the scouting was done by Yellowstar.
Yea I tried to convey that but guess I didn't do it properly. Fnatic just stuck with the trio even while doing badly instead of trying to change things up so I don't think they are that smart, it's just their plans at least worked out. Rest of EU seems moronic imo. Elements has Froggen dictating what goes, SK I have no idea what is going on in that camp. Gambit has freaking P1noy???. Only really Dig and CST compare to the stupidity of EU I feel. It's sad since EU has so many great players and a history of being great at gaming.
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There are teams in EU that have decent scouting/teambuilding, it's just none of the big names do.
For as much shit as we give Youngbuck, CW has actually built a pretty solid team out of castoffs and rejects (and Freeze), and H2K believing in Ryu/Kasing paid dividends.
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Though when it comes up to 'Fnatic management', more credit should go to Steer, the manager, specifically, for the pushing he did to get Huni and then Reignover. The articles linked to in that reddit post are a good read.
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To be fair YB seems to just take the best talent avalaible every single time, it just SUPRISINGLY seems to be a decent scouting method, huh.
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Are you saying that recycling players that clearly don't cut it anymore purely based on their name recognition and prior achievements is not a decent scouting method?
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Playing with moebuck is basically the EU equivalent of the hyperbolic chamber, it's why he produces such talent.
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On April 30 2015 00:18 Wita wrote:
How is it not a good analogy just because the owner of iG is richer than Abramovich? They both buy a lot of star players or insane ammounts of money instead of going for homegrown talent.
That applies to every Chinese team.
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VG buying coco just to trade him for cool is fucking funny.
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Also this
Zorozero, Froggen, Dexter, Tabzz&Nyph?
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I'm just waiting for all the chinese roster turnover drama. Offseason is just full of half-true rumors and deals that change last minute.
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On April 30 2015 02:44 AsnSensation wrote:
VG buying coco just to trade him for cool is fucking funny.
Wait . . . what?
LOL
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well they have to bench Dandy or Mata to play another korean so leveraging for top chinese talent is actually their best possible way to improve the team.
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according to this guy Yusui has been doing really well in scrims with C9. personally, i see the chances of c9 going with yusui are 75%.
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