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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 13 2015 16:22 GMT
#221
Honestly saying he will be worse before we see a single change to his abilities or numbers is retarded.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 13 2015 16:24 GMT
#222
Not the wording I'd use, but yes.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 13 2015 16:39 GMT
#223
Also nowhere in the post does it say morde will get no cc.Sion is a tank with relatively low damage(unless vs full ad team) that is easily kited yet he still sees play.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 13 2015 16:40 GMT
#224
Sion had CC previously in his kit. Morde doesn't have and I highly doubt they will change anything about it.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 16:52:58
February 13 2015 16:52 GMT
#225
On February 14 2015 00:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yes, because they reduced his damage.


LOL
cant wait for you to be designer so i can get you to give my champions infinite hp for a 5% damage nerf
aka Teutonica
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#226
not going to lie im kinda getting tired of riot changing everything every few weeks, cba to commit to mastering champion when he can get changed/ reworked every moment or they decide to release new one which makes him obsolete
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 16:54:07
February 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#227
On February 14 2015 01:53 kongoline wrote:
not going to lie im kinda getting tired of riot changing everything every few weeks, cba to commit to mastering champion when he can get changed/ reworked every moment or they decide to release new one which makes him obsolete


Did you not play during Season 2 lol, new patch and new champ every 2 weeks :D

What we have now is downright normal in comparison ^^
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#228
atleast they didnt do their bullshit reworks back then, i could pick somebody underplayed and be safe now everything is pending for rework or nerfs ...
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 13 2015 16:56 GMT
#229
On February 14 2015 01:40 739 wrote:
Sion had CC previously in his kit. Morde doesn't have and I highly doubt they will change anything about it.

Well your doubt isnt really the same as riot saying "we are not adding any cc to his kit".
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 16:57:39
February 13 2015 16:57 GMT
#230
most champions are never changed for a year+ unless they are FotM
there are a lot of champions and only a few changes every month

aka Teutonica
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2015 17:02 GMT
#231
Why touch veigar? THE SECOND HE SEES SOME PLAY. BETTER CHANGE HIM.

Like wtf? Fucking pawn plays this fucker for a single game in LPL, BETTER MOLEST TEH SHIT OUT THIS CHAMPION.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 13 2015 17:03 GMT
#232
They did say they were going to change Veigar like, 3 patches ago.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 13 2015 17:03 GMT
#233
On February 14 2015 01:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 01:53 kongoline wrote:
not going to lie im kinda getting tired of riot changing everything every few weeks, cba to commit to mastering champion when he can get changed/ reworked every moment or they decide to release new one which makes him obsolete


Did you not play during Season 2 lol, new patch and new champ every 2 weeks :D

What we have now is downright normal in comparison ^^

When Riot doesn't change anything, he switches the champions he hates facing the most and is the worst thing ever in the history of LoL every few days.
Riot patching stuff on top of it accelerates the turnover to a rate he can't keep up with anymore, give him a break!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 17:11:02
February 13 2015 17:09 GMT
#234
On February 14 2015 02:03 Ketara wrote:
They did say they were going to change Veigar like, 3 patches ago.

The problem with the changes from what I'm reading is nothing is really improved that would suggest any of this is a buff to viegar.

Now his 100-0 is skill shot oriented, without any mobility? LOL, good luck trying to catch any champions in League of Mobility with his new Event Horizon, without getting clowned on first.

In a world where QSS and Banshee Veil exists, I don't think anyone was going around complaining how bullshit Viegar was.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 13 2015 17:10 GMT
#235
On February 14 2015 02:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 02:03 Ketara wrote:
They did say they were going to change Veigar like, 3 patches ago.

The problem with the changes from what I'm reading is nothing is really improved that would suggest any of this is a buff to viegar.

Now his 100-0 is skill shot oriented, without any mobility? LOL, good luck trying to catch any champions in League of Mobility with his new Event Horizon, without getting clowned on first.

Buffing a champion isn't the point of a rework.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 13 2015 17:12 GMT
#236
Well they did say that in the playtests he was getting so much more AP with the new Q that they had to nerf the ratio on R because he was too strong.

That would indicate that it is at least in some way a buff to Veigar.


Not that I disagree with you, I am skeptical.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 17:14:57
February 13 2015 17:14 GMT
#237
On February 14 2015 01:55 kongoline wrote:
atleast they didnt do their bullshit reworks back then, i could pick somebody underplayed and be safe now everything is pending for rework or nerfs ...


Because when you're drastically changing game every season, you're kinda forced to change oldschool champions.

But calling it as bullshit, it's too much.
I don't even remember last time rework failed flat out.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
February 13 2015 17:15 GMT
#238
On February 14 2015 02:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 02:03 Ketara wrote:
They did say they were going to change Veigar like, 3 patches ago.

The problem with the changes from what I'm reading is nothing is really improved that would suggest any of this is a buff to viegar.

Now his 100-0 is skill shot oriented, without any mobility? LOL, good luck trying to catch any champions in League of Mobility with his new Event Horizon, without getting clowned on first.

In a world where QSS and Banshee Veil exists, I don't think anyone was going around complaining how bullshit Viegar was.



Riot has done OK with this for the most part, but this is a very blatant case of balancing for low elo, which is where the Veigar no counterplay complaints are most prevalent.

On February 14 2015 02:12 Ketara wrote:
Well they did say that in the playtests he was getting so much more AP with the new Q that they had to nerf the ratio on R because he was too strong.

That would indicate that it is at least in some way a buff to Veigar.


What kind of playtest? I doubt there are enough people who are competent at Veigar in internal Riot playtesting, since the fixation on AP farming with Q is a fundamental misconception about how Veigar should be played.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 17:17:13
February 13 2015 17:16 GMT
#239
I think AP farming with Q is probably how Riot wants him to be played.


It sounds to me like there might be a disconnect between what Riot thinks good Veigar play is, and what good Veigar play on live is.

When I read the changes the first thing I thought was "Boy if I play Lux against him I can stand behind minions and harass him all lane long and he can't Q me anymore."
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 13 2015 17:17 GMT
#240
Veigar is boring and binary imo, either you land combo and delete someone or you're a fish in a barrel. Not fun to play, not fun to play against. As for counterplay, the cd on qss is alot longer than event horizon, and having to buy a certain item to even be able to approach a veigar is lame.
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