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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On February 02 2015 03:22 Ketara wrote: Best Cho build is obviously to go Wits Zephyr, max E, go 0/15, take 9 towers and not give a fuck. The worst I have ever done is die 20 times on udyr, 33 minute flare into win game at 50 minutes because I'm still invincible. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Also fuck Rengar. Seriously fuck that champion any time Rengar is good the entire game is worse for everyone. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 02 2015 03:12 Ketara wrote: Man, that was back when you could play jungle Cho. When was the last time somebody saw a jungle Cho? Oh and jungle Malphite. I remember when people banned that. Oddone picked Jungle Cho in LCS Spring 2013 finals v GGU. That was the last time I saw it. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I guess slow cast time skill shots and a snowball mechanic are too much risk for pro teams to make him fotm | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:10 Slusher wrote: I would be surprised if Cho top made a comeback, he's got one of the most legit silences in the game at this point and silences are really good. That said he didn't appear when Yasuo was in every game and he hard dumpsters Yasuo. I guess slow cast time skill shots and a snowball mechanic are too much risk for pro teams to make him fotm To defer back to Oddone, he was playing jungle cho a while back and somebody asked why nobody plays him competitively anymore. He said Cho is only good if you can consistently hit ruptures, otherwise he's not worth picking. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Singed just isn't the same since his ult doesn't give him Tenacity anymore, way easier to kill or prevent from reaching you. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Chauster is a geniusssssssss. He was really seeing 2-3 years ahead with his understanding of game. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:06 Sunaj wrote: The last Singed I played again was as Nasus, and he just let me free farm, never had such an ez lane in my life lol. nasus thought the same thing | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
SmiteSlow-Rupture-Scream ganks are pretty ridiculous. Add the potential to burst kids / secure objectives with Feast and you kind of feel Before they changed the cost on upgrading smite, I probably would have argued he has potential to be a top tier Jungler. Right now though his first clear just hurts to much. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:25 Mensol wrote: https://twitter.com/CLGDoublelift/status/561704991056871424 Chauster is a geniusssssssss. He was really seeing 2-3 years ahead with his understanding of game. Context? What did Chauster do with purple side 3 years ago? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:28 iCanada wrote: Jungle Cho actually works alright. SmiteSlow-Rupture-Scream ganks are pretty ridiculous. Add the potential to burst kids / secure objectives with Feast and you kind of feel Before they changed the cost on upgrading smite, I probably would have argued he has potential to be a top tier Jungler. Right now though his first clear just hurts to much. Can't he, like everybody else, just take crab for the extra gold needed? He doesn't even need to start krug side because rupture fucks crabs armor. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:38 obesechicken13 wrote: Context? What did Chauster do with purple side 3 years ago? CLG dropped out of Groups at Worlds Season 2 because they lost the coinflip multiple times and got Purple side in all of their games. The reason they gave was that all their strats were for Blue side only. They still beat SK though so there's that. | ||
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
Maybe I messed up the grammar, but I was the Nasus, sorry if I wasn't clear  | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:41 Gahlo wrote: Can't he, like everybody else, just take crab for the extra gold needed? He doesn't even need to start krug side because rupture fucks crabs armor. Sure he can, but I still think that is dangerous as fuck. "Hey lets wander across the potentially warded river at 35% to 40% HP and spend 30 seconds killing a crab." o.o To me that seems like very minimal risk to ward that area same time every game. Free first blood basically.. if other team shows up where do you run to? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:56 iCanada wrote: Sure he can, but I still think that is dangerous as fuck. "Hey lets wander across the potentially warded river at 35% to 40% HP and spend 30 seconds killing a crab." o.o To me that seems like very minimal risk to ward that area same time every game. Free first blood basically.. if other team shows up where do you run to? Granted, where I play everybody sucks, but afaik it's part of the standard start on pretty much every jungler. Nothing stops you from getting it 2nd while you're still mega healthy. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On February 02 2015 05:14 Gahlo wrote: Granted, where I play everybody sucks, but afaik it's part of the standard start on pretty much every jungler. Nothing stops you from getting it 2nd while you're still mega healthy. Pretty sure you can just buy 1 less potion at the start of the game, which you odn't need as Cho if you're doing the 3-camp thing anyway. Double-checking this 1sec. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 02 2015 05:14 Gahlo wrote: Granted, where I play everybody sucks, but afaik it's part of the standard start on pretty much every jungler. Nothing stops you from getting it 2nd while you're still mega healthy. Your logic is sound. I never thought of just killing krab. Speaking of killing enemy junglers, I recently saw a thing on NB's stream. NB did gromp into blue buff on purple side, and the enemy J4 did krugs without using smite, to NB's blue. The other guy made it just in time to steal NB's blue, since most people use their smite on gromp, and then kept him behind all game. Ruined NB's "undefeated" on jungle Wukong. I took inspiration from that game and ganked a J4 at his blue as Sej. I didn't bother warding it and just did krugs -> his blue from purple side. I came in just in time for the smite steal on blue, and then burned his flash and I'm pretty sure forced him to back. Then I stole the next blue and kept him just slightly under my level because J4 clears faster and jungle experience is raised for underleveled junglers. He did eventually outlevel me but that's unimportant. It seems like a pretty reliable and safe tactic. If you're good enough to predict the enemy jungler's clear path 80% of the time then you'll make it in time to contest their buff, get it, and burn a summoner or get a kill. If you mispredict their starting buff you can just take it. It's pretty safe considering everyone's clear paths. If you run over a ward, and for some reason mid or top are pushed already so the enemy reacts, you can waste their time and potentially still escape. It reminds me of the S3 shenanigans where smiting the enemy buff gave you level 3 and no one had trinkets. Got so many flashes, free buffs, and first bloods that way. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + AS/Armour/scalingMR/AS, 21/9/0. None of it optimized. | ||
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