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As of page 44, no more placement QQ in GD.
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On January 25 2015 04:05 Slusher wrote:
not only that from what I can tell Placements are massively nerfed this year (they don't seem to be weighted very heavily at all)
Seems like it. Last year I think I went 6-4, and I dropped an entire division and a half. This year I went 5-5 and I'm Plat 2 (so down 3 notches), which is about as high as I'd reasonably expect without going 10-0. Saves me from having to grind up a bunch I guess. I'm okay with that.
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Question. I like Morgana as a support, the 20% cdr thing at level 1 is pretty fun. I dig the easy stacks from Spellthief's, but I really hate Frost Queen's Claim (too hard, and morg has good itemization options as a support). I've seen the anti-Frostfang arguments and they seem legit enough, given that 500 gold for a couple mana pots and superior gold gen / stack damage is questionable.
The upgraded stacks are pretty good on Morgana specifically, though, giving W +15 damage and gold every 30 seconds. If I'm not planning to build FQC, do you think I should build Frostfang for laning (on Morgana specifically), or just leave it as Spellthief's and just replace it lategame?
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On January 25 2015 06:51 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Question. I like Morgana as a support, the 20% cdr thing at level 1 is pretty fun. I dig the easy stacks from Spellthief's, but I really hate Frost Queen's Claim (too hard, and morg has good itemization options as a support). I've seen the anti-Frostfang arguments and they seem legit enough, given that 500 gold for a couple mana pots and superior gold gen / stack damage is questionable.
The upgraded stacks are pretty good on Morgana specifically, though, giving W +15 damage and gold every 30 seconds. If I'm not planning to build FQC, do you think I should build Frostfang for laning (on Morgana specifically), or just leave it as Spellthief's and just replace it lategame?
Depends on how much peel you need. FQC active is really strong.
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Morgana is jawesome with the extra ap.
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On January 25 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 06:51 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Question. I like Morgana as a support, the 20% cdr thing at level 1 is pretty fun. I dig the easy stacks from Spellthief's, but I really hate Frost Queen's Claim (too hard, and morg has good itemization options as a support). I've seen the anti-Frostfang arguments and they seem legit enough, given that 500 gold for a couple mana pots and superior gold gen / stack damage is questionable.
The upgraded stacks are pretty good on Morgana specifically, though, giving W +15 damage and gold every 30 seconds. If I'm not planning to build FQC, do you think I should build Frostfang for laning (on Morgana specifically), or just leave it as Spellthief's and just replace it lategame? Depends on how much peel you need. FQC active is really strong.
Fqc also makes landing binding a ton easier if you have chase potential in your team. Frostfang worth building if the lane phase is prolonged, otherwise you might be better off getting earlier sightstone and pink ward control.
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On January 25 2015 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:On January 25 2015 06:51 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Question. I like Morgana as a support, the 20% cdr thing at level 1 is pretty fun. I dig the easy stacks from Spellthief's, but I really hate Frost Queen's Claim (too hard, and morg has good itemization options as a support). I've seen the anti-Frostfang arguments and they seem legit enough, given that 500 gold for a couple mana pots and superior gold gen / stack damage is questionable.
The upgraded stacks are pretty good on Morgana specifically, though, giving W +15 damage and gold every 30 seconds. If I'm not planning to build FQC, do you think I should build Frostfang for laning (on Morgana specifically), or just leave it as Spellthief's and just replace it lategame? Depends on how much peel you need. FQC active is really strong. Fqc also makes landing binding a ton easier if you have chase potential in your team. Frostfang worth building if the lane phase is prolonged, otherwise you might be better off getting earlier sightstone and pink ward control.
Fully agree. I really like the T2 item, but I think rushing sightstone is a must on pretty much any support.
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On January 25 2015 04:20 Alaric wrote:
Uh, Graves sure isn't doing too great for "the best AD carry atm".
he's completely ignored in korea for the most part as well. sivir/corki are far more desired. with a couple kog maws.
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On January 25 2015 09:30 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 04:20 Alaric wrote:
Uh, Graves sure isn't doing too great for "the best AD carry atm". he's completely ignored in korea for the most part as well. sivir/corki are far more desired. with a couple kog maws.
Like lack of dashes triggering the Korean safeness fear in ADs, I don't think they're enthused by his 525 range.
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Super low base AS + poor AS/level + subpar range + meh damage at said range + useless passive against frontloaded burst... what do you expect? He's bad after level ~12 if he isn't significantly ahead.
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On January 25 2015 09:33 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 09:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 25 2015 04:20 Alaric wrote:
Uh, Graves sure isn't doing too great for "the best AD carry atm". he's completely ignored in korea for the most part as well. sivir/corki are far more desired. with a couple kog maws. Like lack of dashes triggering the Korean safeness fear in ADs, I don't think they're enthused by his 525 range.
Also, everything graves can do in lane sivir can do, everything graves can do in team play sivir can do better. combine that with the fact that there are no korean teams really centered around how good their AD player is to make graves shine as a pick, its clear to see why graves is not respected.
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Graves does better in a burst AoE combo to blow-up someone as soon as the fight starts anyway, you don't pick that if your team is centered around the AD, to the contrary.
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So I was checking out the LCS stream and just now found out TeamLiquid has a League team. I squeeled like a school girl. It's great to see TL in LoL! Sorry if this is off-topic.
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On January 25 2015 09:51 Alaric wrote:
Graves does better in a burst AoE combo to blow-up someone as soon as the fight starts anyway, you don't pick that if your team is centered around the AD, to the contrary.
a team centered around the skill of their carry position is different than a team using a strategy centered around the ADC role. if your team relies on your ADC player to make plays to get ahead you need that player on a carry that can successfully do that, graves is better in that than sivir, that doesn't mean have graves in a strategy that centers around your carry.
like some teams rely on their support to make the plays some the mid, some the jungler, some the top. each of those means a slightly varied champion pool for that role, even though some or even most of the strategies involved don't center around that role. like teams that rely on their support are a prime example. a support going on thresh to make plays to get ahead doesn't mean you develop a strategy centered around thresh.
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On January 25 2015 09:53 Ozcollo wrote:
So I was checking out the LCS stream and just now found out TeamLiquid has a League team. I squeeled like a school girl. It's great to see TL in LoL! Sorry if this is off-topic.
Why do you think we got a site? 
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On January 25 2015 09:43 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 09:33 Gahlo wrote:On January 25 2015 09:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 25 2015 04:20 Alaric wrote:
Uh, Graves sure isn't doing too great for "the best AD carry atm". he's completely ignored in korea for the most part as well. sivir/corki are far more desired. with a couple kog maws. Like lack of dashes triggering the Korean safeness fear in ADs, I don't think they're enthused by his 525 range. Also, everything graves can do in lane sivir can do, everything graves can do in team play sivir can do better. combine that with the fact that there are no korean teams really centered around how good their AD player is to make graves shine as a pick, its clear to see why graves is not respected.
Graves is far better in a press R to win comp than sivir is. He has his place
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I just had a game on LAN, where on one team there was two dudes called TSM NIGGERHATER and BigDiggerNick lost to a gnar who hard-carried that was called IAmNegro
fucking lmao
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On January 25 2015 11:53 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 09:43 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 25 2015 09:33 Gahlo wrote:On January 25 2015 09:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 25 2015 04:20 Alaric wrote:
Uh, Graves sure isn't doing too great for "the best AD carry atm". he's completely ignored in korea for the most part as well. sivir/corki are far more desired. with a couple kog maws. Like lack of dashes triggering the Korean safeness fear in ADs, I don't think they're enthused by his 525 range. Also, everything graves can do in lane sivir can do, everything graves can do in team play sivir can do better. combine that with the fact that there are no korean teams really centered around how good their AD player is to make graves shine as a pick, its clear to see why graves is not respected. Graves is far better in a press R to win comp than sivir is. He has his place
Why would you be relying on that role to do the AOE damage in that composition?, Sivir's ultimate would force the engagement to catch the team in the combo. Gnar orianna Rengar Sivir would do significantly better than a graves comp.
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On January 25 2015 12:18 ParadeofMadness wrote:
I just had a game on LAN, where on one team there was two dudes called TSM NIGGERHATER and BigDiggerNick lost to a gnar who hard-carried that was called IAmNegro
fucking lmao
The universe provides.
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Ok, I found a jungler that can carry.
Rek'Sai. If she somehow escapes the bans try as hard as you can to get her, and if you somehow get more than one person who can also deliver hard CC (Nami bubble/wave, Annie stun) you layer it and just can melt even the tankiest of foes.
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On January 25 2015 13:24 Kinie wrote:
Ok, I found a jungler that can carry.
Rek'Sai. If she somehow escapes the bans try as hard as you can to get her, and if you somehow get more than one person who can also deliver hard CC (Nami bubble/wave, Annie stun) you layer it and just can melt even the tankiest of foes.
Oh, so you found out why she's almost always banned? lol
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