EPTI will legit try your build with said adc tonight when I can play
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I will legit try your build with said adc tonight when I can play | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:11 AsianEcksDragon wrote: The IE nerf came with a PD buff of 5%. It's actually more cost efficient so I only started doing double PD because of it. Do I like having 80 fewer AD. Hell no. But an extra 35% crit and 50% attack speed is an insane amount of DPS at 6 item. I would build it even if I have to stay back a bit and wait for everyone to burn their cooldowns. Even in plat, I've seen so many teams get overconfident because they appear to be winning a fight early. The 50% AS is mostly wasted in an actual fight, the chance of you actually being able to use double PD's worth of AS is pretty damn rare. So unless you're running a 4 protect 1 comp, chances are morelikely than naught that you'll be wasting majority of that 50% AS on while kiting. That doesn't even include the fact that your ADC has AS steroids already. So what ends up happening is you end up paying a fuckton for a ton of AS that you aren't really going to use to it's full potential, as opposed to spending it on a BT or IE, which you'll make full use of per shot. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:19 AsianEcksDragon wrote: So far, Jinx. I've gotten a couple of pentas in the past couple of weeks, after reading 5-6 items. The only other champs I've tried these builds on are Lucian and Ezreal. Jinx is one where I would much prefer the BT on, her ult ratio is pretty insane.... | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
It's a bit like how GA (or Zilean ult) lets you position less safely in exchange for damage, because you know you have more leeway. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
However, you will still need a defensive item for those Syndra stuns, or when a Vi use Q-Flash-Ult on you. It's even better if you can bind the bruiser coming in since you are certain to kill him and get the passive buff. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:31 Slusher wrote: in your post on the last page you listed 3 builds, one was titled "auto attack build" Yep. I do double PD on Jinx. You get 90% crit on her AOE auto. Teams tend to clump up after the initial phase of the fight when they start focusing the same targets. As long as that target isn't you then it's an easy triple+. Edit: Double dorans is fine. I don't think the laning phase is any different than a typical IE start. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
You almost always get bt even before lw, not speaking about ignoring useless ghostblade and basically ignoring her passive by going double pd instead of shiv which is core on Jinx in general. Can't imagine, how useless is Ezreal with double pd "autoattack damage" build, after getting 6 stacks of passive. On January 19 2015 05:33 krndandaman wrote: i'm starting to see a decent amount of anivia's again and more often than not, my team gets crushed by the anivia. perhaps anivia is coming back? saw her a few times on streams too. Anivia is always somewhere around, good players sadly ain't. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
I wonder if Wraith knew her %hp damage was on her W now after the change. He leveled up Q first in that game for some unknown reason. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: I'm pretty sure that Jinx is literally last champion outside of Lucian for those buidls. You almost always get bt even before lw, not speaking about ignoring useless ghostblade and basically ignoring her passive by going double pd instead of shiv which is core on Jinx in general. Can't imagine, how useless is Ezreal with double pd "autoattack damage" build, after getting 6 stacks of passive. Anivia is always somewhere around, good players sadly ain't. People always pick anivia now and then. Most of the time those people who still play her are very practiced at her as well, and people don't respect the fact that her earlygame burst is some of the highest in the game at level 1-3. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: I'm pretty sure that Jinx is literally last champion outside of Lucian for those buidls. You almost always get bt even before lw, not speaking about ignoring useless ghostblade and basically ignoring her passive by going double pd instead of shiv which is core on Jinx in general. Can't imagine, how useless is Ezreal with double pd "autoattack damage" build, after getting 6 stacks of passive. Anivia is always somewhere around, good players sadly ain't. Ezreal is a special case. He's probably the marksman that rely most on spell than auto damage. I tried the build on him but don't think that it offered any distinctive advantage over the usual trinity force or blue builds. The GB helps with CDR and Armor pen but Muramana still seems better. I haven't tried it on Corki yet but I imagine him to be the same. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:41 Sonnington wrote: Sejuani support was equal to or better than Leona in terms of damage before the rework. Now that her %hp damage is a DoT AoE, her burst is significantly hampered and isn't nearly as strong supporting. I wonder if Wraith knew her %hp damage was on her W now after the change. He leveled up Q first in that game for some unknown reason. I assumed it was so he had more mobility with the lower CD to let him roam better and actually have a smaller window of uselessness in bot lane. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
The other option I guess would be trying to do something like a crit rune page and try to get 100% crit chance with IE + 2x PD? But then you fall into the Yasuo trap where you are RNG reliant on your damage until you get to the 2nd PD, and even then all it does is make you spend 9.6k gold, where-as with that same about you'd have IE, Shiv/PD, Zerkers and probably a Pickaxe (for LW) or Vamp Sceptre (for BT) for more upfront, raw damage. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
The main reason why people go Stalker's is the immediate damage (which is lower than Skirmisher's, but immediate dmg. > DoT most of the time) and slows the opponent so even if they Flash away they're still slowed (and you're still moving faster) so you can catch up and hit them with skills to try and kill them. Any champ that can inflict a slow or Grievous Wounds debuff would probably get the most out of it, so you're looking at Kayle's Q, Kha'Zix's W, Aatrox's E, Rengar's E, and Diana's E. And on every single one of those champs you're probably going Stalker's or Ranger's because of burst damage or clear speed, respectively. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On January 19 2015 05:49 PrinceXizor wrote: I assumed it was so he had more mobility with the lower CD to let him roam better and actually have a smaller window of uselessness in bot lane. Yeah, that's a possibility. It's still not very efficient since each rank reduces the cd by only 1 second. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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