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Official statement - http://gambit-gaming.com/news/official-statements/leviathan-joins-gambit-gaming-as-a-head-coach
Leviathan Now Coaching Gambit Gaming
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Official statement - http://gambit-gaming.com/news/official-statements/leviathan-joins-gambit-gaming-as-a-head-coach | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On January 14 2015 05:51 Ansibled wrote: Does Gambit have a gaming house? Ye, in Berin. Mixed feeling about that move. Some ppl says that he was shit coach, some says he was decent. I guess we will see this split. | ||
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pharell
Portugal9 Posts
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Kopeeh
Germany17 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 14 2015 05:53 orzeu wrote: Ye, in Berin. Mixed feeling about that move. Some ppl says that he was shit coach, some says he was decent. I guess we will see this split. Do they no longer have issues with visas? Leviathan was remote coaching for Alliance, so considering that he did OK. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:19 Redox wrote: My opinion of his game knowledge is rather low, but I judge only from what I read from him and I might be wrong. In any case if he is able to bring more structure to their practise that is already valuable. You think? Leviathan basically transformed [A] from this TSM-esque team "we're cool laners and have cool mechanics, but objectives ain't our thing to do" into very intelligent team. And i don't think that it's coincidence that after Leviathan left, Alliance comes to IEM and basically showcases TSM again. And compLexity, jokes aside, was probably second best strategic team in NA after C9/CLG in Spring. And I don't think that it's Kubz's achievement either. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You think? Leviathan basically transformed [A] from this TSM-esque team "we're cool laners and have cool mechanics, but objectives ain't our thing to do" into very intelligent team. And i don't think that it's coincidence that after Leviathan left, Alliance comes to IEM and basically showcases TSM again. And compLexity, jokes aside, was probably second best strategic team in NA after C9/CLG in Spring. And I don't think that it's Kubz's achievement either. Alliance was never great strategically. Of course they learned to play more solidly after practising together for so long. But in the end their strategy was just abut not making mistakes and hoping the opponent does some. Otherwise they were screwed because there was nothing proactive or surprising about their plays. The strats or picks they did at worlds were in some cases straight up bad. I assume this was the reason why they did not want to work with him anymore. Although my main problem with him was always how delusional he sounds in some statements. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:36 Redox wrote: Alliance was never great strategically. Of course they learned to play more solidly after practising together for so long. But in the end their strategy was just abut not making mistakes and hoping the opponent does some. Otherwise they were screwed because there was nothing proactive or surprising about their plays. The strats or picks they did at worlds were in some cases straight up bad. I assume this was the reason why they did not want to work with him anymore. Although my main problem with him was always how delusional he sounds in some statements. If this is about the askfm thing then to start with you should take askfm less seriously. Also, I'd much rather have a coach who believes you can defeat anyone than a coach who is just going to accept losing to Korean/Chinese teams. Alliance did manage to perfect-game NaJin, they weren't consistent at all but they could compete. I am curious why Alliance changed to a new coach though, you'd think there's a reason. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:20 Ansibled wrote: Do they no longer have issues with visas? Leviathan was remote coaching for Alliance, so I think he did a pretty good job. Diamond/Edward will be flying every week. On January 14 2015 06:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You think? Leviathan basically transformed [A] from this TSM-esque team "we're cool laners and have cool mechanics, but objectives ain't our thing to do" into very intelligent team. And i don't think that it's coincidence that after Leviathan left, Alliance comes to IEM and basically showcases TSM again. And compLexity, jokes aside, was probably second best strategic team in NA after C9/CLG in Spring. And I don't think that it's Kubz's achievement either. Don't agree at all. In the middle of split they were really smart team with clear plan every game with good pick/ban and rotations, but with every week they were becoming worst. At Worlds their tactical lvl was terrible again and rely on good laning phase to win games. Also I have 0 faith in his ability to control ppl in the team, look at whole shit with Tabzz and how he wasn't practining at all before Worlds. Agree with Redox 100%. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
But if he is bringing something to get better and help the team to improve, he is more that welcome. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:42 orzeu wrote: Diamond/Edward will be flying every week. Also I have 0 faith in his ability to control ppl in the team, look at whole shit with Tabzz and how he wasn't practining at all before Worlds. Imo there was a bigger problem with Shook actually. Even if he played soloQ he put zero effort into it. Trolled with random champions in D3 or at most hat some fun with Lee Sin. So his champion pool stayed very small and his overall play deteriorated. Although this is not only the coaches fault of course. Btw it seems like Shook (or someone else) recognized this and Shook is now playing much more serious in soloQ, practises relevant champions and ranked up a lot. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On January 14 2015 06:58 Redox wrote: Imo there was a bigger problem with Shook actually. Even if he played soloQ he put zero effort into it. Trolled with random champions in D3 or at most hat some fun with Lee Sin. So his champion pool stayed very small and his overall play deteriorated. Although this is not only the coaches fault of course. Btw it seems like Shook (or someone else) recognized this and Shook is now playing much more serious in soloQ, practises relevant champions and ranked up a lot. Agree, you could see bad habits from soloq in his play in LCS. If you compare his performance in s4 to s3, he was a lot more calculated/smart in s3. He started climbing ladder, because he wanted Challenger before season ends or something. | ||
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ConanTroutman
Canada67 Posts
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Kimchigirl
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
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