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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 28 2014 18:28 GMT
#1261
idk about Xpecial's attitude problems but from recent memory he's the only NA support aside from Aphro (at least this split can't rememember all games from the last 3 years) who I have truly ever felt "damn he just carried that fucking game alone".

I hope he can fix his problems because all of the free agents (daydreaming, sheep, or that gleewhatever guy from C9T) are imo huge downgrades.

Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 18:29:02
April 28 2014 18:28 GMT
#1262
On April 29 2014 03:25 Sufficiency wrote:
You think Sheep/BloodH2O is better than xpecial?

No, I think Xpecial is the second or third best support player in North America after Aphromoo and maybe LemonNation.

I don't think anyone can deny that. But if his head ain't screwed on straight or if there are internal issues within TSM, then I don't disagree with the benching at all. If he can get his shit together, he'll get his spot back without a doubt.
God Bless
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 18:29:49
April 28 2014 18:29 GMT
#1263
Sheep and bloodwater are good but not as good as xpecial, even when vulcan was top 3 bloodwater wasn't as good. But if the team can't play with xpecial as a person skill doesn't mean crap
Glorious SEA doto
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 28 2014 18:30 GMT
#1264
On April 29 2014 03:23 Roffles wrote:
Reginald is blunt and an asshole. But he has his head screwed on straight. His goal is to have his team win Worlds. He won't be able to accomplish that if one of his players is a whiny little bitch who blames his teammates for losing and not putting 100% into achieving that goal of a world championship.

If there are issues within the team, you have to put them out. Plain and simple. If he's off doing his own thing and not coordinating with the team, then he's actually hurting the team, despite his skill level. Think of it as a suspension for conduct detrimental to the team.


I'll just be clear and say that if Xpecial really was causing issues with the team Regi should've benched him and was not an asshole for doing so.

Regi in general can just be an asshole and I don't think that specific trait benefits TSM in anyway. He could do all the good things he's done without being an asshole about it.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 28 2014 18:33 GMT
#1265
On April 29 2014 03:30 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 03:23 Roffles wrote:
Reginald is blunt and an asshole. But he has his head screwed on straight. His goal is to have his team win Worlds. He won't be able to accomplish that if one of his players is a whiny little bitch who blames his teammates for losing and not putting 100% into achieving that goal of a world championship.

If there are issues within the team, you have to put them out. Plain and simple. If he's off doing his own thing and not coordinating with the team, then he's actually hurting the team, despite his skill level. Think of it as a suspension for conduct detrimental to the team.


I'll just be clear and say that if Xpecial really was causing issues with the team Regi should've benched him and was not an asshole for doing so.

Regi in general can just be an asshole and I don't think that specific trait benefits TSM in anyway. He could do all the good things he's done without being an asshole about it.

Not everything in life is nice. If he's the guy signing your paychecks, you suck it up unless it's borderline crossing the line. Regi's blunt and sometimes borderline an asshole, but nothing he said was ridiculously outrageous, unlike Donald Sterling of the LA Clippers.

His Facebook post was simply stating that Xpecial was benched for attitude reasons and that if he can fix those issues, he can have his job back. I don't see an issue with it at all.
God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
April 28 2014 18:37 GMT
#1266
On April 29 2014 03:33 Roffles wrote:
I don't see an issue with it at all.


But his profile picture is so immature...
TranslatorBaa!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 28 2014 18:40 GMT
#1267
http://www.mundoverse.com/interview-former-royal-club-support-tabes-mother-son-esports-makes-equally-proud/
Translated interview with tabe's mom, apparently he's making 16k per month atm
Glorious SEA doto
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
April 28 2014 18:46 GMT
#1268
On April 29 2014 03:40 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.mundoverse.com/interview-former-royal-club-support-tabes-mother-son-esports-makes-equally-proud/
Translated interview with tabe's mom, apparently he's making 16k per month atm


Tabe is selling coaching for 30k RMB per month (1 hour a day) right now, not sure if that's part of it hue.
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 28 2014 18:47 GMT
#1269
On April 29 2014 02:39 seanisgrand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 02:36 Ketara wrote:
Reginald always makes me laugh. That facebook post is all serious, and then his picture is a Beavis and Butthead reference. I have very little respect for the guy.


I'm sure he could change the picture, but something tells me you are just nitpicking.

It's almost as dumb as the LotR family/house debate.

On April 29 2014 03:29 Fusilero wrote:
Sheep and bloodwater are good but not as good as xpecial, even when vulcan was top 3 bloodwater wasn't as good. But if the team can't play with xpecial as a person skill doesn't mean crap

Keep in mind that Bloodwater was supporting Zuna.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
April 28 2014 18:49 GMT
#1270
being an asshole teammate is toxic and bad for success, however being an asshole boss has a pretty good track record throughout history.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
April 28 2014 18:50 GMT
#1271
Bloodwater and the ex dignitas support both had their moments of brilliance, but I think Xpecial is still way better
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 28 2014 18:51 GMT
#1272
On April 29 2014 03:40 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.mundoverse.com/interview-former-royal-club-support-tabes-mother-son-esports-makes-equally-proud/
Translated interview with tabe's mom, apparently he's making 16k per month atm

imagine how much money he'd make with the TSM brand behind him. TSM.Tabe.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 28 2014 18:51 GMT
#1273
On April 29 2014 03:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 03:33 Roffles wrote:
I don't see an issue with it at all.


But his profile picture is so immature...

Don't be such a betamale asshole
Administrator@TL_Zess
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 18:58:00
April 28 2014 18:57 GMT
#1274
On April 29 2014 03:49 chalice wrote:
being an asshole teammate is toxic and bad for success, however being an asshole boss has a pretty good track record throughout history.


Not really. There's a big difference between being blunt or direct and being an asshole. When he was on the team Regi would often go to asshole stage and make himself sound like an idiot (or a bigger asshole). Since Bjergsen came I can honestly say I haven't seen him go asshole mode towards his team but I also don't get to see Regi as much as we did in S1/S2 when they streamed everything or in S3 when they had TSM reality show. Either way though, props to him for toning down the asshole vibes since taking over the team.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 28 2014 19:08 GMT
#1275
Onto something more game related. I've bought Vel'koz recently and supporting with him is so much FUN. It's the most fun I've had in a while in league. His damage and poke earlygame is insane, and while is damage falls off I still think he's quite good later on in the game through his soft CC alone. Has anybody been playing him and how do you guys feel about him?

Note I haven't played him against competent competition (I'm silver) so his flaws (lack of mobility, no tankiness) aren't being exploited as much as they would be against good players, but still.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 28 2014 19:12 GMT
#1276
On April 29 2014 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 03:40 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.mundoverse.com/interview-former-royal-club-support-tabes-mother-son-esports-makes-equally-proud/
Translated interview with tabe's mom, apparently he's making 16k per month atm

imagine how much money he'd make with the TSM brand behind him. TSM.Tabe.

probably not as much, considering how huge the chinese market is. Might need confirmation from the china experts here but apparently even the casters have huge fanbases that made them Millionaires by buying the stuff from their private online stores (chinese ebay/amazon).

Not sure if it was fake but first thing Misaya did after retirement was to post a picture of a porsche with the caption " finally i can buy a car"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 28 2014 19:13 GMT
#1277
lack of mobility is a big one imo, any strong early jungle going to make your life a living hell in botlane.
liftlift > tsm
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 28 2014 19:16 GMT
#1278
I hear Xpecial shits on kids like Dyrus in lane 1v1.

CLG Xpecial?
God Bless
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 28 2014 19:17 GMT
#1279
On April 29 2014 04:08 Mikau wrote:
Onto something more game related. I've bought Vel'koz recently and supporting with him is so much FUN. It's the most fun I've had in a while in league. His damage and poke earlygame is insane, and while is damage falls off I still think he's quite good later on in the game through his soft CC alone. Has anybody been playing him and how do you guys feel about him?

Note I haven't played him against competent competition (I'm silver) so his flaws (lack of mobility, no tankiness) aren't being exploited as much as they would be against good players, but still.

It's good enough to be played in Champions.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 28 2014 19:19 GMT
#1280
On April 29 2014 04:16 Roffles wrote:
I hear Xpecial shits on kids like Dyrus in lane 1v1.

CLG Xpecial?


That would be counter logic.


Oh wait...
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