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Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
March 25 2014 21:28 GMT
#1621
godbelter

link/bjerg

shiphththuthuthrurhur/hai

everyone else

throwbelter
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 21:35:34
March 25 2014 21:32 GMT
#1622
On March 26 2014 06:05 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:05 arb wrote:
On March 26 2014 06:03 Swords wrote:
On March 26 2014 05:58 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 26 2014 05:45 Alaric wrote:
On March 26 2014 05:39 Vlanitak wrote:
there is no bad blood, it was a hard decision to make but something had to change with the team. This is, in our opinion, the first step in the right direction.

Does that mean there are already other steps planned?


Do we all hate cruzer here?


I don't hate Cruzer, but I have yet to see him win lane. Even when he gets lots of jungle help he still seems behind or even.

He does some things well. He (usually) doesn't feed. He listens to calls well, and joins the team at the appropriate times. He builds tanky and creates chaos in teamfights.

He just completely lacks power in the laning phase, and looks kind of uncomfortable. He dies to 2v1 tower dives at 6 every other game, and he'll get baited too easily into ganks. If he could improve his laning (maybe if he didn't spam Lee Sin in soloqueue) I think he could be a pretty decent LCS player.

Of course I know nothing and this is complete "sportsfan" blather.

they should just hire wingsofdeath instead, he always 1v2s and always gets camped and wins.

he's a true american hero

"Guys I've drawn all this pressure, take objectives omg"

"He's standing in river bush condescending to me. Take dragon!"

+ Show Spoiler [for those that forgot] +
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 25 2014 21:36 GMT
#1623
How do I get good at Ryze vs Renekton? I get dumpstered no matter which end I'm on.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 25 2014 21:36 GMT
#1624
On March 26 2014 06:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Meh, I don't think its going to have much of an effect on DIG. Midlaners for NA are all kinda the same with a couple exceptions. It's like:

Bjerg

Mancloud
Shiphtur
Hai

Everyone else

Mancloud in same group as Hai and Shiphtur.
Meanwhile link is in "everyone else".
dat tier list...


I'm not impressed by Link personally, he's a solid member of a streaking team, but IMO that's more due to other lanes than him. Like, he does well versus a mostly unimpressive group of midlaners, but not much more than that.

Mancloud's got a great champ pool and carries hard. Shipthur I'm probably a bit biased cuz of that last game. Hai is okay, he'd be lower but he fits in C9 well.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 25 2014 21:38 GMT
#1625
On March 26 2014 06:36 AlterKot wrote:
How do I get good at Ryze vs Renekton? I get dumpstered no matter which end I'm on.

Do what the other guy is doing to you ... ?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 25 2014 21:38 GMT
#1626
On March 26 2014 06:36 AlterKot wrote:
How do I get good at Ryze vs Renekton? I get dumpstered no matter which end I'm on.


Ryze is very good, but you have to be very careful. Early on your quick easy combo + autos can wear him down, and you zone him hard. 1v1 you win as long as you make sure he doesn't hop on top of you before you get pretty ahead because you're still pretty squishy. You are fairly vulnerable to ganks though.

Basically you have the potential to win lane pretty hard, and you outscale him anyways.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 21:44:59
March 25 2014 21:42 GMT
#1627
On March 26 2014 06:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Meh, I don't think its going to have much of an effect on DIG. Midlaners for NA are all kinda the same with a couple exceptions. It's like:

Bjerg

Mancloud
Shiphtur
Hai

Everyone else

Mancloud in same group as Hai and Shiphtur.
Meanwhile link is in "everyone else".
dat tier list...

Are we only allowed to have a 3 month memory?

Also... wait for it...

RIP Scarra.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
March 25 2014 21:42 GMT
#1628
On March 26 2014 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 26 2014 06:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Meh, I don't think its going to have much of an effect on DIG. Midlaners for NA are all kinda the same with a couple exceptions. It's like:

Bjerg

Mancloud
Shiphtur
Hai

Everyone else

Mancloud in same group as Hai and Shiphtur.
Meanwhile link is in "everyone else".
dat tier list...


I'm not impressed by Link personally, he's a solid member of a streaking team, but IMO that's more due to other lanes than him. Like, he does well versus a mostly unimpressive group of midlaners, but not much more than that.

Mancloud's got a great champ pool and carries hard. Shipthur I'm probably a bit biased cuz of that last game. Hai is okay, he'd be lower but he fits in C9 well.

What?

Is this April 2013?
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 21:51:10
March 25 2014 21:50 GMT
#1629
On March 26 2014 06:42 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 26 2014 06:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Meh, I don't think its going to have much of an effect on DIG. Midlaners for NA are all kinda the same with a couple exceptions. It's like:

Bjerg

Mancloud
Shiphtur
Hai

Everyone else

Mancloud in same group as Hai and Shiphtur.
Meanwhile link is in "everyone else".
dat tier list...

Are we only allowed to have a 3 month memory?

Also... wait for it...

RIP Scarra.

Only relevant tier lists are for current level of play. No point living in the past.
liftlift > tsm
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 25 2014 21:50 GMT
#1630
On March 26 2014 06:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:36 AlterKot wrote:
How do I get good at Ryze vs Renekton? I get dumpstered no matter which end I'm on.

Do what the other guy is doing to you ... ?

Well yeah, of course I want to just do what players that win against me do, except I don't understand what they do and why they win, that's why I asked for help.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 25 2014 21:55 GMT
#1631
On March 26 2014 06:50 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 06:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On March 26 2014 06:36 AlterKot wrote:
How do I get good at Ryze vs Renekton? I get dumpstered no matter which end I'm on.

Do what the other guy is doing to you ... ?

Well yeah, of course I want to just do what players that win against me do, except I don't understand what they do and why they win, that's why I asked for help.

I imagine that when you're Renekton, the Ryze is constantly poking you and you lose a ton of health from his AA / Q, and whenever you dash in he snares you and leaves.

I imagine that when you're Ryze, the Renekton is in your face and murders you while you're still squishy and the jungler is always there because you have no real escape.

If those are correct, then you should do exactly that when you are on the other side of the matchup.

I usually roll with weird Ryze pages; 5% CDR from runes + a 5/10/15 or 5/13/12 mastery page. You'll have 10% CDR from your runes and masteries, 10% from Q, and 20% from Frozen Heart.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
March 25 2014 22:00 GMT
#1632
PBE & Thread updated.

Come feast your eyes as Riot once again makes you realize how stupid the kneejerk reaction is!
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#1633
Except when I try to do that, it doesn't work. This time I was Ryze and every time renek dashed, I snared him and started running away but was still in range of his W, and thus full combo. If I tried to not be in range of dash then I couldn't get any AA's and Q's and eventually he would zone me out of farm. I don't remember last time I played this match as Renekton, but I imagine "your jungler is always there" was a hard part.

Damn, I really can't think of any other matchup where odds are theoretically in my favour yet I terribly lose.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 25 2014 22:08 GMT
#1634
Yeah, 2014 Mancloud is like worse than TSM Reginaldo.
God Bless
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 25 2014 22:12 GMT
#1635
S4 mancloud legit worst mid in NA LCS, almost never wins lane and contributes virtually nothing. XDG's few wins are mostly on zoonie, benny or catching even worse throws (God bless you nien).
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 22:13:32
March 25 2014 22:12 GMT
#1636
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1637
XWX for #2 mid NA imo
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
March 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1638
On March 26 2014 07:08 Roffles wrote:
Yeah, 2014 Mancloud is like worse than TSM Reginaldo.


That's not saying much since everyone is worse than Reginaldo...
TranslatorBaa!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 25 2014 22:16 GMT
#1639
i still remember when I went to pax and Regi was the only sociable one who talked to every fan. Regi 4 president.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 25 2014 22:23 GMT
#1640
I swear Trick2g is the best/worst thing to happen to solo que. Best if you are vs someone copying him, and worst if they are on your team. Luckily the suicidal 21 utility Udyr was on the enemy team this time.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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