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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 18 2014 18:17 GMT
#301
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 18 2014 18:19 GMT
#302
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 18:21:09
March 18 2014 18:20 GMT
#303
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 18:22:36
March 18 2014 18:22 GMT
#304
On March 19 2014 02:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 18:41 AsnSensation wrote:
Monte doing LPL analysis with Papasmithy. EDG vs OMG
http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2198289229001&vod_id=

Nice. I'm always interested in LPL but never really get a chance to watch. Also Monte's rant about not liking the champion pillars was pretty silly :p

Edit: Also I just realized ClearLove went back to his awesome name and ditched "Troll." Win.

Papasmithy raised a pretty interesting point, OMG is still dominating with xiyang if they keep up like this when cool gets better will they just keep xiyang anyway.
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

TL hipsterness is even more yo.
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 18 2014 18:22 GMT
#305
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

Probably because Heroes is less of a MOBA and more of an objective-based brawler. It doesn't conform to a lot of the standard MOBA settings, so it doesn't particularly overlap too much with DotA or LoL.

Also it's a Blizzard game and while there may be some moaning about Blizz lately, there's still quite a bit of brand loyalty.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 18 2014 18:23 GMT
#306
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

That would make me sad. Heroes doesn't really seem to be trying to go for the eSports market, just a fun game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 18:31:17
March 18 2014 18:29 GMT
#307


Yeah, Leopard messed up pretty bad there-- he probably though he only needed one auto or so and facechecked the bush while his stuff on was on CD. When Renek went offensive in his face, he panicked a bit too I think. Dying nullified a lot of his advantage, though I suppose you could say he was still ahead since Renek needs to win lane and get good farm to be where he wants midgame and he was already Tear + Cata (maybe RoA?) at that point.

The Karthus not getting pen and stuff in Death Defied seems like a massive bug, and I'm kind of confused why there isn't a hatetrain/wagon for me to hop on about it.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 18 2014 18:31 GMT
#308
On March 19 2014 03:22 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

Probably because Heroes is less of a MOBA and more of an objective-based brawler. It doesn't conform to a lot of the standard MOBA settings, so it doesn't particularly overlap too much with DotA or LoL.

Also it's a Blizzard game and while there may be some moaning about Blizz lately, there's still quite a bit of brand loyalty.

Nah TL is just hipster. They're gonna pick up Smite and Infinite Crisis before touching LoL.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#309
On March 19 2014 03:31 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:22 Requizen wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

Probably because Heroes is less of a MOBA and more of an objective-based brawler. It doesn't conform to a lot of the standard MOBA settings, so it doesn't particularly overlap too much with DotA or LoL.

Also it's a Blizzard game and while there may be some moaning about Blizz lately, there's still quite a bit of brand loyalty.

Nah TL is just hipster. They're gonna pick up Smite and Infinite Crisis before touching LoL.

Well, Smite is pretty fucking cool
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#310
On March 19 2014 03:31 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:22 Requizen wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:20 canikizu wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.

Meh, different beasts. Picking up a fighting game is a lot different than another MOBA.

Still. I feel like they're gonna pick up upcoming Heroes of the Storm over LoL anyday lol.

Probably because Heroes is less of a MOBA and more of an objective-based brawler. It doesn't conform to a lot of the standard MOBA settings, so it doesn't particularly overlap too much with DotA or LoL.

Also it's a Blizzard game and while there may be some moaning about Blizz lately, there's still quite a bit of brand loyalty.

Nah TL is just hipster. They're gonna pick up Smite and Infinite Crisis before touching LoL.

Bitch pls, league ded in a year we're all gonna move onto smite. Smite is the next big thing soon we'll see faker winning the world championship at the staple centre for smite.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#311
On March 19 2014 03:29 ticklishmusic wrote:


Yeah, Leopard messed up pretty bad there-- he probably though he only needed one auto or so and facechecked the bush while his stuff on was on CD. When Renek went offensive in his face, he panicked a bit too I think. Dying nullified a lot of his advantage, though I suppose you could say he was still ahead since Renek needs to win lane and get good farm to be where he wants midgame and he was already Tear + Cata (maybe RoA?) at that point.

The Karthus not getting pen and stuff in Death Defied seems like a massive bug, and I'm kind of confused why there isn't a hatetrain/wagon for me to hop on about it.

Is anyone here even a Karthus main? I think that's probably why. Also surprised no one noticed for so damn long... lol.
liftlift > tsm
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 18:40:43
March 18 2014 18:38 GMT
#312
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, there are tons of "how to play x" guides everywhere, and finally riot even does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 18 2014 18:40 GMT
#313
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

But we already do LoL coverage T_T
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 18 2014 18:41 GMT
#314
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

By cover, I mean to form a team to play competitively. TL only have dota2, sc2, and melee team, they don't even have hearthstone yet although we all know that they will have eventually.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 18:42:43
March 18 2014 18:41 GMT
#315
On March 19 2014 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

But we already do LoL coverage T_T

I know, and it's aweosme ^^, I just mean there isn't a need to put the same focus that they do onto sc2/dota2.hearthstone, because they don't need to be the "main"community for the game, as the game has plenty of other, healthy, hubs.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 18 2014 18:43 GMT
#316
LoL coverage is pretty shit in most places though... Ongamer probably does the best for interviews/news coverage, but as far as anything with any strategic esports depth it's pretty sporadic and not very well covered.

At least now we got more kawaii liquid players
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 18 2014 18:46 GMT
#317
On March 19 2014 03:41 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

But we already do LoL coverage T_T

I know, and it's aweosme ^^, I just mean there isn't a need to put the same focus that they do onto sc2/dota2.hearthstone, because they don't need to be the "main"community for the game, as the game has plenty of other, healthy, hubs.

Yeah, our biggest struggle currently is we don't fill enough of a niche that those hubs don't already cover. We produce quality stuff but it's just lost in the noise. I think having some sort of official support (or having a sub site like Hearthstone) would help improve our legitimacy though. But then that opens the whole can or worms of people not wanting TL LoL to go to shit by having an influx of new posters so meh.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 18 2014 18:46 GMT
#318
On March 19 2014 03:41 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

By cover, I mean to form a team to play competitively. TL only have dota2, sc2, and melee team, they don't even have hearthstone yet although we all know that they will have eventually.

Do we really need another team in the NA scene? Ignoring the fact that any team they make is going to have to grind its way up through the Challenger scene, who's left unassociated and can Liquid make sure that the players will stay?

With SC2 and DotA, people moving teams is fairly few and far between from what I understand, but in LoL roster changes happen like once a season if not more for some teams. If I was in charge of TL's eSports department I wouldn't touch that with a 10.5 foot pole.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 18 2014 18:47 GMT
#319
On March 19 2014 03:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 03:41 killerdog wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:38 killerdog wrote:
On March 19 2014 03:17 canikizu wrote:
Now Liquid covers SSBM?
haha poor LoL.


I don't see any reason for tl to consider covering lol officially tbh, (unless they're just desperate for traffic lol :p)
TL is great at being the central hub for a game, in broodwar and now sc2 it was THE site, and in dota (and i guess hearthstone lol) it came in and helped tie together a slightly fragmented community and gave a source of reliable articles, stream info, event previews (+ liquipedia) which the communities of those games were missing.

LoL doesn't really need any of that, there are strong communities already on reddit and the general forums, where riot staff also participate in discussions. There are lots of sites which cover patch notes and things (reignofgamaing, surrender@20 etc) sites which cover the pro scene and do interviews, (ongamers, esportsheaven etc) a lot of pros do their own blogs/vlogs and event previews, and finally riot also does their own power rankings and things on LoLesports.

I'd much rather have TL support a scene like smash or (if it turns out to be decent competitively) Heroes, where it will make a big difference, then throw a few more fish (however good those fish are) into the already super crowded pond that is LoL coverage.

But we already do LoL coverage T_T

I know, and it's aweosme ^^, I just mean there isn't a need to put the same focus that they do onto sc2/dota2.hearthstone, because they don't need to be the "main"community for the game, as the game has plenty of other, healthy, hubs.

Yeah, our biggest struggle currently is we don't fill enough of a niche that those hubs don't already cover. We produce quality stuff but it's just lost in the noise. I think having some sort of official support (or having a sub site like Hearthstone) would help improve our legitimacy though. But then that opens the whole can or worms of people not wanting TL LoL to go to shit by having an influx of new posters so meh.

Ye but then we can go "I liked TL LoL before it went mainstream" and who doesn't want hipster rights, we already specialise in doing that for champions why not our entire subforum.
Glorious SEA doto
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 18 2014 18:52 GMT
#320
Oh for anybody who dislikes playing against teemo in top lane, here's what I do when I see that shit:
Request a lane swap.
Zone teemo out of all CS.
Once lane is pushed up, 3-man dive the teemo under tower.
Rinse and repeat until Teemo quits.

darkness overpowering
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