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brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
January 21 2014 07:44 GMT
#21
On January 21 2014 09:39 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 08:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 20 2014 19:15 brokenwatch wrote:
I really doubt he will manage to get diamond 1 in less than 2 months.In fact I'm sure he won't unless he gets extremely lucky.
http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/277469-bigthumbnail.jpg

Uhhhhhhhh... you have a case of bitch mentality, and it's probably why you're low ranked. Stop thinking like a bitch.

Funny, a platinum1 guy end of season (IIRC) barking at dia2 player for his "low ranking"

Hell, he didn't even say anything bitchy, you could argue mean/silly/ignorant but bitchy? What the flying fuck

Thankx you Scip, but I don't need your protection.Skinny teens don't look that good as bodyguards.

And I'm still convinced Teutonica wouldn't have made it to D1 in 2 months, if he didn't duo with Scip.

Slayer I thought you said you would document every game you play in this thread.Where's all the documentation of games you duo'd with Scip?I want to hear how you got carried.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
January 21 2014 09:55 GMT
#22
i have them and most of the replays ill post them this evening when i get back
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 17:46:03
January 21 2014 17:20 GMT
#23
Days 1&2
All games duo'd with scip. This changes the games because I am dead last in every game, meaning I get roles which I suck at, but because my MMR is highly devalued, I just need to be about even and we'll win. 3 out of the 4 games we lost, I fed really hard because I was pretty tired. A couple more of those ADC games I struggled but it didn't matter.
Final result: 8w 4l. 67% Winrate.
I played pretty poorly except for the top games, my leona needs work at least because I have been playing mostly hearthstone I lost a lot of the timing for keeping the lane even early and not just getting outpushed.

seem to be having problems with the replays, if they work for other people then its fine tho
none of these games I would recommend anyway
Game 1: Leona ~1/0/8 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758780/
Game 2: Warwick ~9/1/9 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758786/
Game 3: Leona 1/1/9 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758791/
LOSS Game 4: Leona 0/5/4 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758793/
LOSS Game 5: Trundle 7/6/16 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758798/
Game 6: Caitlyn 8/2/13 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758800/
Game 7: Caitlyn 3/1/6 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758803/
LOSS Game 8: Caitlyn 7/8/14 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758807/
Game 9: Caitlyn 7/12/14 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758808/
Game 10: Kayle 3/2/15 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758809/
Game 11: Caitlyn 4/9/8 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758813/
LOSS Game 12: Leona 0/9/4 http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3758816/
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 21 2014 17:33 GMT
#24
TLDR:

Game 1: Got carried
Game 2: Carried
Game 3: Got carried
Game 4: Fed
Game 5: Fed
Game 6: Carried
Game 7: Got carried
Game 8: Fed
Game 9: Fed
Game 10: Got carried
Game 11: Fed
Game 12: Fed

In summary, you got carried 4 games, carried 2 games, and fed 6 games. Not bad 50/50. Sounds about right.
God Bless
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 17:36:30
January 21 2014 17:35 GMT
#25
#justlastpickthings
actually scip was the one who fed in game 5 I was like 4/0 or something
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 17:39:22
January 21 2014 17:38 GMT
#26
So TLDR: Scip's a feeder.

+ Show Spoiler [More serious stuff] +
Best of luck. If you wish to achieve your goal, I suggest ditching the shtiter duo partner for a better one.
God Bless
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 17:42:20
January 21 2014 17:41 GMT
#27
I probably won't duo with scip anymore, it has a few problems
1: borked will be like LOL CARRIED
2: I get roles which I suck at so its harder to prove a point that skill wins games
3: I get matched with people I got matched with at D1 anyway because scips mmr is huge because he's been playing constantly since the reset

I'll probably only try to play udyr/garen/leona as well
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 21 2014 19:22 GMT
#28
On January 22 2014 02:38 Roffles wrote:
So TLDR: Scip's a feeder.

+ Show Spoiler [More serious stuff] +
Best of luck. If you wish to achieve your goal, I suggest ditching the shtiter duo partner for a better one.



I can confirm.
hi
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 21 2014 19:29 GMT
#29
just on a side note about getting carried: one of teuts arguments in the OP is actually that trying to carry too hard is bad play. makes sense. thinking about your own item timings, farm, k/d/a too much and giving it too much importance distracts you from winning the game, thus the typical gold/plat-feeling-pressured-to-carry-I-allways-do-well kind of player.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 19:35:30
January 21 2014 19:34 GMT
#30
basically it distracts focus from winning the game, personal power helps you win the game only when you use that power. if you waste a teamfight or push opportunity so you can finish your item instead of pushing the advantage with what you had you're actually making a bad decision
TLDR with great rice comes great power comes great responsibility, - Uncle Ben

not that I carried in those games though, but ill pretend my assists were just KSs all day
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 20:15:08
January 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#31
On January 22 2014 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
I probably won't duo with scip anymore, it has a few problems
1: borked will be like LOL CARRIED
2: I get roles which I suck at so its harder to prove a point that skill wins games
3: I get matched with people I got matched with at D1 anyway because scips mmr is huge because he's been playing constantly since the reset

I'll probably only try to play udyr/garen/leona as well

I have the 2nd highest winrate of all people in top50 EUW ladder. Sure, I've been playing a lot, but it's not just that
Roffles is a maggot
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
January 21 2014 20:14 GMT
#32
playing khazix a lot helps
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 21 2014 20:15 GMT
#33
I have always had an acute talent for making good picks, yes
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 21 2014 20:18 GMT
#34
On January 22 2014 05:13 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
I probably won't duo with scip anymore, it has a few problems
1: borked will be like LOL CARRIED
2: I get roles which I suck at so its harder to prove a point that skill wins games
3: I get matched with people I got matched with at D1 anyway because scips mmr is huge because he's been playing constantly since the reset

I'll probably only try to play udyr/garen/leona as well

I have the 2nd highest winrate of all people in top50 EUW ladder. Sure, I've been playing a lot, but it's not just that
Roffles is a maggot

Please we all know it is only because everyone else but you is lagging.

I am like only person who has best win rate when I am last pick and fill roles and play champs I have never played before lol.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
January 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#35
On January 22 2014 05:13 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
I probably won't duo with scip anymore, it has a few problems
1: borked will be like LOL CARRIED
2: I get roles which I suck at so its harder to prove a point that skill wins games
3: I get matched with people I got matched with at D1 anyway because scips mmr is huge because he's been playing constantly since the reset

I'll probably only try to play udyr/garen/leona as well

I have the 2nd highest winrate of all people in top50 EUW ladder. Sure, I've been playing a lot, but it's not just that
Roffles is a maggot
Where can i get these numbers? I recall there was a ladder available on the official site but
i cant find it now.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 21 2014 20:58 GMT
#36
On January 22 2014 05:15 Scip wrote:
I have always had an acute talent for making good picks, yes



Especially when it ends up with double jungling :D
hi
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#37
On January 22 2014 05:52 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 05:13 Scip wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
I probably won't duo with scip anymore, it has a few problems
1: borked will be like LOL CARRIED
2: I get roles which I suck at so its harder to prove a point that skill wins games
3: I get matched with people I got matched with at D1 anyway because scips mmr is huge because he's been playing constantly since the reset

I'll probably only try to play udyr/garen/leona as well

I have the 2nd highest winrate of all people in top50 EUW ladder. Sure, I've been playing a lot, but it's not just that
Roffles is a maggot
Where can i get these numbers? I recall there was a ladder available on the official site but
i cant find it now.

euw.op.gg but site seems to be down
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:42:18
January 21 2014 23:40 GMT
#38
Day 3:

6 Wins, 0 losses. My first "win" servers went down, but it was all but won and I crushed this teemo with garen, so I claim hatred win.
Felt pretty lucky today, all the games I won easily in the lane phase and my team was usually ahead unless I was jungling in which case I played a solid jungle and all lanes were comfortable after a few ganks.

I'll upload the replays later if they work, the only real good game was the duoq because it was a total shitfest
Game 0: Garen 8/2
Game 1: Udyr 3/0/7
Game 2: Garen 5/2/10
Game 3: Garen 5/2/3
Game 4: Caitlyn 9/4/10 DUOQ with scip, he fail swap and we play smite leona bot and I got hooked like 4 times so we lost lane, but nidalee carried the game
Game 5: Udyr 3/1/14

Current standing: 1-0 in Diamond 5 placement match. I expect to skip D4 and possibly D2, since I skipped plat 2.
Current winrate: 78%
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 22:11:26
January 23 2014 22:01 GMT
#39
Days 4&5

5 wins, 4 losses. 68% total (all days) winrate.
My losses were all at 0 points or in the placement match where i could soak them in, so I'm at diamond V with 84 points, getting ~26 points a win.
Felt a little bit of the luck kick back. All the top lane games I did well in lane, usually getting tower and kills, and the team was behind with one lane snowballing and generally people raging. We'd hold on a lot and I did pretty well in fights but we never really came back.
My garen definitely needs some work to properly "carry" games. There was an udyr game where I managed to get a kill, sneak out in a winding path through jungle with like 100 hp and double buffs around 2 ppl (thanks to wards I could see where they went), jungle and heal up with sightstone, head to top with about 40% hp still with double buffs. Then nasus and vi both doing pretty well dived me, and I kited them around getting hits in and I picked up 2 kills after gragas helped finish the nasus off in he end. It lasted a ridiculously long time but lvl 11 udyr with doulebuffs and max W/R is incredibly slippery, and high damage. Then I managed to completely turn the game around and snowball it. I can often make favourable fights when behind as garen and usually win lane, but rarely I'm able to turn the game around. Some of its due to it being harder in top lane to make an impact but its a lot to do with awareness and how well you play the champ, generally I'm a little sloppy especially in situations where its not clear what the best play is.

LOSS Game 1: Garen 9/4/3
Game 2: Kayle 15/5/8
Game 3: Udyr 11/1/11
LOSS Game 4: Garen 7/8/4
LOSS Game 5: Garen 2/4/8
LOSS Game 6: Garen 4/3/2
Game 7: Udyr: 7/1/5
Game 8: Udyr 3/1/2 (15 min inhib 20 min stomp)
Game 9: Garen 6/2/5

no replays, lolreplay is at my startup but you still need to wake it up apparently. Was a couple good games here too.
Interestingly, in game 9, I was against nasus, managed to get 2 kills, 1 with a gank, but generally he could free farm and I could only farm myself. (went BC and sunfire, but he just lifesteals too much). Their bot was ahead, but our team was just like its fine just farm. Ended up nasus got like 750+ on Q, and he finished with 1/6/4 score.
We had ziggs and gragas jungle, so he had a hard time against that kind of poke, so me with garen who's supposed to suck late game outperformed by a lot the nasus with massive Q farm.
I mean, if the roles were reversed I'd have a chance to flash onto ziggs and my bot lane would have been winning.
just interesting to see how sometimes champ labels don't matter.
brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
January 31 2014 04:37 GMT
#40
You feed everygame and yet howsome manage to win.Illustrates well how well programmed soloq matchmaking is.
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