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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 07 2014 17:12 GMT
#4101
Is it possible to splitpush against Mundo/Shyvana/Nasus/Renekton?
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 07 2014 17:17 GMT
#4102
On February 08 2014 02:12 MattBarry wrote:
Is it possible to splitpush against Mundo/Shyvana/Nasus/Renekton?


Only if you're stronger than them.

It sounds like a dumb tautology but really, those champions can all have wildly different power levels at 30 minutes depending on the story of the game. 200 stack Nasus with 1.5 items completed will be a joke, but 600 stack Nasus with 3 items completed will be the one laughing at you.
I am the Town Medic.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
February 07 2014 17:27 GMT
#4103
On February 08 2014 02:17 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 02:12 MattBarry wrote:
Is it possible to splitpush against Mundo/Shyvana/Nasus/Renekton?


Only if you're stronger than them.

It sounds like a dumb tautology but really, those champions can all have wildly different power levels at 30 minutes depending on the story of the game. 200 stack Nasus with 1.5 items completed will be a joke, but 600 stack Nasus with 3 items completed will be the one laughing at you.


EU challenger spoiler:

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How fast Mundo dies to a well played and farmed zed can be seen in yesterdays NIP vs TTD in which Nukeduck's Zed with Sword of the Divine solod Mundo with ease.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 07 2014 17:32 GMT
#4104
note that if you can solo a mundo with ease and you think you are useless in teamfights you've never played adc
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#4105
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
February 07 2014 17:51 GMT
#4106
On February 07 2014 14:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 14:01 ketchup wrote:
On February 07 2014 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
? Yango agreed with OMG over iG...?

Talking to him atm he did mention he said iG over OMG but OMG "is fine if you dont like iG"
I misheard some where along the way.

Edit: I also want to mention that a lot of Rioters really love PE, putting them as the best CN team. I have a feeling we're all pretty clueless. I'll be watching LPL more closely when the next season starts.


PE is highly overrated, and I have no idea why people think they're the strongest team. Namei is OK as an ADC but he looks really good relative to the rest of his team, I don't think he's the top ADC in China.

Personally I'm really confused on how that reputation even got spread in the west since PE legit has zero international appearances and their LPL performance isn't anything special, but now everyone pulls out the "Namei is the best ADC in China and you've never even heard of him!" card to pad their hipster cred.

PE is an OK team but compared to OMG, WE, ad iG...I don't really see it. And of course there's the whole no international appearance thing.


I think a big part of the Namei hype is from Doublelift.


Doublelift gets shit on by every single Chinese ADC though so lol. Hell, fucking SWSG shits on him LOL

It's silly hype and people need to stop blindly buying into it orz

S3 Worlds taught me that no one knows anything about Chinese teams. It's a joke that people favored TSM over OMG in their first match.

Namei's hype comes from a very old comment from DLift, pre-LPL Spring 2013, and since no one actually watches Chinese LoL they still cling on to that comment despite dramatic meta-shifts, lol.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 07 2014 18:01 GMT
#4107
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 19:26:39
February 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#4108
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


a Draven Main can (assuming 50%+ mana at start of skirimish)
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 19:34:38
February 07 2014 19:33 GMT
#4109
HEY TL PEOPLE.

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Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
February 07 2014 21:29 GMT
#4110
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 07 2014 21:43 GMT
#4111
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


exactly
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 07 2014 21:47 GMT
#4112
On February 08 2014 06:29 Vanka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?


Trist with her ult up I could see. The problem is not outdamaging Mundo's heal, its being able to kite and dodge cleavers to not die yourself.
Freeeeeeedom
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#4113
Hey guys, is LoL replay hard to use/install? Im kind of interested in it maybe to watch myself /mistakes
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 07 2014 22:02 GMT
#4114
On February 08 2014 06:47 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 06:29 Vanka wrote:
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?


Trist with her ult up I could see. The problem is not outdamaging Mundo's heal, its being able to kite and dodge cleavers to not die yourself.

~3 cleavers puts you at 1/2 HP, his E is minimum +100 AD, and his W is 2 sunfire capes.

Realistically only Vayne is going to be able to duel mundo though his defenses and be able to damage race him while still being able to kite around.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 07 2014 22:17 GMT
#4115
On February 08 2014 07:02 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 06:47 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 06:29 Vanka wrote:
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?


Trist with her ult up I could see. The problem is not outdamaging Mundo's heal, its being able to kite and dodge cleavers to not die yourself.

~3 cleavers puts you at 1/2 HP, his E is minimum +100 AD, and his W is 2 sunfire capes.

Realistically only Vayne is going to be able to duel mundo though his defenses and be able to damage race him while still being able to kite around.


Well thats why I said Trist, She can Ult-W and just flee the scene and be too far away for Mundo to stick with cleaver spam. I didn't say you had to kill him. Its probably stupid to even try considering that by the time you did the other team probably could take baron 4 times.
Freeeeeeedom
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
February 07 2014 22:36 GMT
#4116
On February 08 2014 07:17 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 07:02 xes wrote:
On February 08 2014 06:47 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 06:29 Vanka wrote:
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?


Trist with her ult up I could see. The problem is not outdamaging Mundo's heal, its being able to kite and dodge cleavers to not die yourself.

~3 cleavers puts you at 1/2 HP, his E is minimum +100 AD, and his W is 2 sunfire capes.

Realistically only Vayne is going to be able to duel mundo though his defenses and be able to damage race him while still being able to kite around.


Well thats why I said Trist, She can Ult-W and just flee the scene and be too far away for Mundo to stick with cleaver spam. I didn't say you had to kill him. Its probably stupid to even try considering that by the time you did the other team probably could take baron 4 times.


This reminds me of how singed with ult and ghost vs. trist with flash, w, and ulti push back will still manage to make it to trist to fling her.

Ironically ashe in the same scenario is fine.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 22:43:36
February 07 2014 22:43 GMT
#4117
Do you guys think AD ratio on Jayce's W in hammer form will help him to be fotm again?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 07 2014 22:46 GMT
#4118
On February 08 2014 07:02 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 06:47 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 06:29 Vanka wrote:
On February 08 2014 03:01 cLutZ wrote:
On February 08 2014 02:38 Nos- wrote:
I wouldn't say adcs can solo mundo with ease.


He was talking in a salty matter.

Vayne is probably the only AD I would trust 1v1 in a lane vs. Mundo if a turret isn't nearby.


What about the three adcs with healing reduction?


Trist with her ult up I could see. The problem is not outdamaging Mundo's heal, its being able to kite and dodge cleavers to not die yourself.

~3 cleavers puts you at 1/2 HP, his E is minimum +100 AD, and his W is 2 sunfire capes.

Realistically only Vayne is going to be able to duel mundo though his defenses and be able to damage race him while still being able to kite around.

Couldn't a kog'maw just manmode a mundo? Assuming the fight starts with kog attacking from max range, not standign next to mundo from the start.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 07 2014 22:52 GMT
#4119
I think this really depends on if Mundo has Frozen Heart or not.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 07 2014 22:58 GMT
#4120
the problem with kog is that if you get hit with a cleaver you're dead if any member of the enemy team is in any kind of position
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