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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 22:35:00
December 29 2013 22:34 GMT
#2381
maybe I don't know how to play it but I feel like I don't have any space(on adc) with morg support, I'm just trading autos with the other support all day err day when she gets picked.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 29 2013 22:50 GMT
#2382
On December 30 2013 07:34 Slusher wrote:
maybe I don't know how to play it but I feel like I don't have any space(on adc) with morg support, I'm just trading autos with the other support all day err day when she gets picked.

morg support can be pretty fucking useless if you don't have the right ADC.
Pretty much you want to pick her into stuff like Leona/Annie, but still want an ADC who can supplement the lack of damage you bring. So lucian, graves and draven are pretty good ADC's to combo her with
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 22:58:50
December 29 2013 22:53 GMT
#2383
On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote:
ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung.

thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.

Well, if you have 6300 now and want to grab one fast, take Elise. Shyvana should be getting a cost reduction in the near future.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 29 2013 22:55 GMT
#2384
On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote:
ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung.

thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.

elise definitely has a steeper learning curve, if you are just looking to add another champ to your rotation rather than invest a bunch of time into a new main i think shyvana is the better option.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 29 2013 22:59 GMT
#2385
the only thing i find "difficult" about elise is that her stun doesnt go through minions on a gank, unlike Vi, who doesnt give a damn about anything.
Micromnky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States262 Posts
December 29 2013 23:00 GMT
#2386
On December 30 2013 07:55 chalice wrote:
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On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote:
ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung.

thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.

elise definitely has a steeper learning curve, if you are just looking to add another champ to your rotation rather than invest a bunch of time into a new main i think shyvana is the better option.


hm, cool. not looking for a new "main" so to speak. is it a pretty specifiic learning curve, or if you normally play certain types of champs, you'll pick her up faster?

On December 30 2013 07:53 Gahlo wrote:
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On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote: ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung. thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.
Well, if you have 6300 now and want to grab one fast, take Elise. Shyvana should be getting a cost reduction in hte near future.
Probably just gonna use RP, I'm only lvl 25 so I've been dumping all my IP into runes/quints.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 29 2013 23:05 GMT
#2387
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match making is pretty legit
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 29 2013 23:06 GMT
#2388
With Morg support, play her against melee supports. It acts as a hard counter more or less to everything from Thresh to Leona. Ranged supports are kinda...meh matchup wise for her.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 29 2013 23:06 GMT
#2389
On December 30 2013 08:00 Micromnky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 07:55 chalice wrote:
On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote:
ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung.

thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.

elise definitely has a steeper learning curve, if you are just looking to add another champ to your rotation rather than invest a bunch of time into a new main i think shyvana is the better option.


hm, cool. not looking for a new "main" so to speak. is it a pretty specifiic learning curve, or if you normally play certain types of champs, you'll pick her up faster?

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 07:53 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2013 07:32 Micromnky wrote: ok thinking about picking up a new top/Jung champ. only have riven for top, and vi for jung. thinking about either shyv or Elise. I know both are strong, just haven't really played much of either.
Well, if you have 6300 now and want to grab one fast, take Elise. Shyvana should be getting a cost reduction in hte near future.
Probably just gonna use RP, I'm only lvl 25 so I've been dumping all my IP into runes/quints.

Elise has a lot of champion specific knowledge and combos to play well.
Pretty much the reason why the champ is non existent below plat, but is insanely popular and strong in Diamond/Challenger.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 29 2013 23:11 GMT
#2390
On December 30 2013 08:05 turdburgler wrote:
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match making is pretty legit

Given that the mmr split is near 1.3% and Vi has a 298/0 ranked record....

Yup.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 29 2013 23:11 GMT
#2391
i mean diamond 1 vs plat 1 ;p
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22454 Posts
December 29 2013 23:20 GMT
#2392
that has to be a bug... 298/0 is... wow... just wow
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 29 2013 23:20 GMT
#2393
that part is a bug
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 29 2013 23:39 GMT
#2394
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 23:45:50
December 29 2013 23:44 GMT
#2395
i dunno, from recent experience 1950 mmr games and 2050 mmr is a huge difference. assuming lolking is actually accurate and its not just confirmation bias ofc : l
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 23:53:04
December 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#2396
On December 30 2013 08:39 krndandaman wrote:
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On December 30 2013 08:11 turdburgler wrote:
i mean diamond 1 vs plat 1 ;p


you're high plat 1. they are d1 0-4 LP.
skill difference is not enormous.

i've seen much much worse. like all diamond/challenger vs silver/bronze.

the worst i've personally been in was me with premade 5s (plat 1, bronze 3, bronze 1, gold 5, silver 5) vs diamond 1, diamond 2, diamond 5, plat 1, plat 1.
needless to say we lost inhibitor within 12 minutes.

I think you underestimate the difference in skill Diamond vs. Plat is (well, high diamond).

From (low-mid) D1 to P1 is a similar skill gap as between high Plat and low Silver. D5 isn't much different from P1, but by about D2 it starts ramping up significantly. D1 varies significantly based on how much LP you have.

Or at least, so I've heard/rough approximation between my games with/against Diamonds.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 30 2013 00:03 GMT
#2397
On December 30 2013 08:44 turdburgler wrote:
i dunno, from recent experience 1950 mmr games and 2050 mmr is a huge difference. assuming lolking is actually accurate and its not just confirmation bias ofc : l

I'm plat 3 and I run up against challengers when I queue into normals
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 30 2013 00:38 GMT
#2398
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 00:49:26
December 30 2013 00:48 GMT
#2399
On December 30 2013 08:05 turdburgler wrote:
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[image loading]


match making is pretty legit


yeah normals are pretty odd sometimes

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[image loading]


although this is explained by teut's bronze normal mmr
No I'm never serious.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 00:54:43
December 30 2013 00:54 GMT
#2400
that game wasnt a normal D:
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