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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 17:12:10
November 12 2013 17:00 GMT
#2901
On November 13 2013 01:47 Slayer91 wrote:
that cass player is just insanely good at cass, she didn't seem THAT strong from that vid

Her DPS is insane, if played well: burst of an APC with the sustained damage of an ADC. Can't think of any good Cass player in NA/EU anymore, ever since Mr. Paradoxical retired, though (and people dropped her in favor of others). Couple of factors lead to her decline, from nerfing spell vamp, nerfs to Yorick (who acted as insurance to keep her alive to to DPS), rise of hard assassins who can kill her so she can't do her insane DEEPS (even if they die for it, Cass is always a larger threat), and she got some minor nerfs to base damage and ratios (-10 dmg on Twin Fangs and -.1AP on her Q): all these things led to her disappearing from the competitive scene. Her laning can still be oppressive depending on the matchup (and her level 2 kill potential remains through the roof), and her dps is still DEEPS, it's just incredibly hard to play her right/well.

I remember playing her in the days when she was sleeper OP. Was once fed enough to literally 1v5 an entire enemy team (full health) for a penta (one of the few legit cases where I 1v5d). Enemy team tries to gank me when I was taking their blue, melted them all. Mind you, this was back in late S1 when I was nub silver and my opponents were worse than I am so it's not an accomplishment, but it was hilarious at the time.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 12 2013 18:05 GMT
#2902
that Apdo story just made me enjoy my evening class 100x more. That guy is epic. Too bad we will never see him in competetive play like Incarnation.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 12 2013 18:15 GMT
#2903
... Wut.
Sad about the removal of the Harry Potter reference to the Philosopher’s Stone, (as well as the Medieval reference IRL)

So now when you talk about the philosopher's stone, people associate it with Harry Potter? Really?

Damn.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 12 2013 18:18 GMT
#2904
On November 13 2013 03:15 Alaric wrote:
... Wut.
Show nested quote +
Sad about the removal of the Harry Potter reference to the Philosopher’s Stone, (as well as the Medieval reference IRL)

So now when you talk about the philosopher's stone, people associate it with Harry Potter? Really?

Damn.

Times have changed.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 18:25:14
November 12 2013 18:23 GMT
#2905
On November 13 2013 01:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 01:16 Eppa! wrote:
After getting a hang of 3v3 (we play support ad ap or support ad support) I decided to start cassiopeia. She is hard 13% win rate in ranked right now she is so hard compared to Ahri, Eve and Karma that i otherwise play.

Watch in envy, and bow to your korean overlords.

Show nested quote +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD5qE1HMoj8

That was the reason i started playing cass in 3v3. Its getting better though, I am playing with a silver and a low gold friend so i need to carry hard so gaining a slight advantage isn't enough most of the time.
She sorta sucks in 5v5 because she roams badly and has weak ganks but that doesn't matter if you play 3v3 as its top lane that ganks anyway.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2013 18:37 GMT
#2906
Finally got around to watching that Cass video, the early level auto attack kiting with spell usage was so fucking sexy.
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 18:39:40
November 12 2013 18:39 GMT
#2907
On November 13 2013 03:15 Alaric wrote:
... Wut.
Show nested quote +
Sad about the removal of the Harry Potter reference to the Philosopher’s Stone, (as well as the Medieval reference IRL)

So now when you talk about the philosopher's stone, people associate it with Harry Potter? Really?

Damn.

Yeah, in the old days, we think about Full Metal Alchemist
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
November 12 2013 18:39 GMT
#2908
On November 13 2013 01:47 Slayer91 wrote:
that cass player is just insanely good at cass, she didn't seem THAT strong from that vid


Yea but according to TL GD it wasn't impressive at all~

On November 13 2013 01:16 Eppa! wrote:
After getting a hang of 3v3 (we play support ad ap or support ad support) I decided to start cassiopeia. She is hard 13% win rate in ranked right now she is so hard compared to Ahri, Eve and Karma that i otherwise play.


Cassiopeia 3 13 18.8%

i'm basically a god.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 18:44:41
November 12 2013 18:42 GMT
#2909
Problem with Cass is, you have to outplay someone by like such a huge margin to make Cass look good, or that impressive.
When you can just play fizz, and roll face on keyboard and do the same thing.

Also I like how his "Fail" clips, involve him getting a triple kill before dying. lol.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 12 2013 18:49 GMT
#2910
On November 13 2013 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 01:47 Slayer91 wrote:
that cass player is just insanely good at cass, she didn't seem THAT strong from that vid

Her DPS is insane, if played well: burst of an APC with the sustained damage of an ADC. Can't think of any good Cass player in NA/EU anymore, ever since Mr. Paradoxical retired, though (and people dropped her in favor of others). Couple of factors lead to her decline, from nerfing spell vamp, nerfs to Yorick (who acted as insurance to keep her alive to to DPS), rise of hard assassins who can kill her so she can't do her insane DEEPS (even if they die for it, Cass is always a larger threat), and she got some minor nerfs to base damage and ratios (-10 dmg on Twin Fangs and -.1AP on her Q): all these things led to her disappearing from the competitive scene. Her laning can still be oppressive depending on the matchup (and her level 2 kill potential remains through the roof), and her dps is still DEEPS, it's just incredibly hard to play her right/well.

I remember playing her in the days when she was sleeper OP. Was once fed enough to literally 1v5 an entire enemy team (full health) for a penta (one of the few legit cases where I 1v5d). Enemy team tries to gank me when I was taking their blue, melted them all. Mind you, this was back in late S1 when I was nub silver and my opponents were worse than I am so it's not an accomplishment, but it was hilarious at the time.

"its incredibly hard to play her right/well"->"[I] was once fed enough to literally 1v5 an entire team"

Does anyone else read this as a subtle brag or is that just me?
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
November 12 2013 18:50 GMT
#2911
I don't think it was very subtle.
TranslatorBaa!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 12 2013 19:07 GMT
#2912
not as good as syndra. dat stun range is better than cass's lil slow and opportunistic ulti
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 19:34:14
November 12 2013 19:33 GMT
#2913
On November 13 2013 03:49 TheYango wrote:
"its incredibly hard to play her right/well"->"[I] was once fed enough to literally 1v5 an entire team"

Does anyone else read this as a subtle brag or is that just me?

Both I and the enemy team were horrible at the game at the time, as I disclaimered. It doesn't take much skill when the enemy team walks at you in more or less a blob (but it was still hilarious). I haven't been able to play her to a competitive degree since late S2/gold; too hard. Or jungle for that matter.


Speaking of which, with S3 rewards, I'm now down to 14 more champions before I've got em all (using IP only). I'm getting closerrrr (one more year with this release schedule!).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#2914
On November 13 2013 03:15 Alaric wrote:
... Wut.
Show nested quote +
Sad about the removal of the Harry Potter reference to the Philosopher’s Stone, (as well as the Medieval reference IRL)

So now when you talk about the philosopher's stone, people associate it with Harry Potter? Really?

Damn.


Eh so long as I can still type Shurelya and get the item that it is I'am perfectly fine with it. I always associated the philo stone to classic myth..harry potter had one too? Was that a movie title? I feel out of touch..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 20:05:16
November 12 2013 20:04 GMT
#2915
sorcerer's stone was the title for the american release and the original uk was philosopher's stone, you uncultured buffoon
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 20:10:13
November 12 2013 20:09 GMT
#2916
Philo stone was actually called a Sorcerers Stone in America FYI (for Harry Potter). This was done to avoid confusion with the hundreds of other Philo Stone references in pop culture and make Harry Potter seem more unique.

Edit. Kennen'd
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 12 2013 20:21 GMT
#2917
On November 13 2013 05:09 cLutZ wrote:
Philo stone was actually called a Sorcerers Stone in America FYI (for Harry Potter). This was done to avoid confusion with the hundreds of other Philo Stone references in pop culture and make Harry Potter seem more unique.

Edit. Kennen'd


I blame the lack of education of the general populace on the origins of the philo stone. People don't take enough history apparently. All the converting lead to gold and whatnot.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 12 2013 20:29 GMT
#2918
I used to really enjoy Harry Potter nerdom, and JK explained it in an interview how I just did.

Nothing was a better timesink than D2 Cow Runs + Speculating on whether the Goblins would join Voldemort after B4.
Freeeeeeedom
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 12 2013 20:33 GMT
#2919
On November 13 2013 05:21 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 05:09 cLutZ wrote:
Philo stone was actually called a Sorcerers Stone in America FYI (for Harry Potter). This was done to avoid confusion with the hundreds of other Philo Stone references in pop culture and make Harry Potter seem more unique.

Edit. Kennen'd


I blame the lack of education of the general populace on the origins of the philo stone. People don't take enough history apparently. All the converting lead to gold and whatnot.

And then dying of heavy metal poisoning. Science! Fuck yeah!
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 12 2013 20:34 GMT
#2920
I bet we'd have had hover bikes and space colonies in the 1700s if Newton hadn't gotten wrapped up in alchemy. That's alchemy's legacy, it left us all the cool stuff to invent.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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