EPT[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 144
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mr_tolkien
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
so for this reason I assume the relegation spot belongs to the organization and they don't need the 3 players rule. I think it's so that a team that gets relegated can do exactly what VES has done. now if they make it back into LCS I think they'll have to keep at least 3 of their new players that they qualified with. that's my understanding, but it's all guesswork. | ||
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Zhiroo
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 12 2013 18:44 Vlanitak wrote: On the question of 3 members on team to retain spot Id like to present evidence A: Curse gaming, who replaced 3 players (saint for IWD, Nyjacky for Quas and Edward for Zekent). Im pretty sure the 3 member rule only applies upwards from Challenger in the coming relegation Sounds about right (only applies once you make it into LCS/not in the Promotional tourney), though I was confused because I remember in the Spring Split, CLG could only replace 2 members due to that. It seems fine before the Promotional Tourney is played for mass-swaps as it means you're spot in LCS is still challenge-able, whereas if you've already secured a spot, the lineup that won you an LCS spot can't be massively overhauled. It's late, I'm confuzzled. In general, the ex-VES lineup was more or less unworkable. NK Inc and maple are the only two whom really performed; at this point, attempting to mash together a new lineup won't work, so adopting the ggLA lineup (whom I'm sure are no longer with ggLA) seems a better choice (as many semi-pros are already taken) under the VES banner works. But honestly, recent challenger scene news just makes me sad. Laute has to leave ( D: ) and Nydus/Otter no longer laning together (not sure reason why). On November 12 2013 18:55 JonGalt wrote:Universal *SNIP* Probably. I was previously thinking of it as them simply fighting to keep their LCS slots. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 12 2013 18:56 Zhiroo wrote: I have icon and Elise skin but no border yet. Also I thought preseason 4 would start today so I was finally excited to start playing again Season 4 won't start for a while. It'll be preseason like in s3. You get elo gains but nothing concrete until the season begins. | ||
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M2
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8pQguGb.jpg) interesting picks in the first NLB match! ziggs gettin some time! and that overlay is super sexy. LR thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435168#17 | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On November 12 2013 19:04 JonnyLaw wrote: Season 4 won't start for a while. It'll be preseason like in s3. You get elo gains but nothing concrete until the season begins. I know but I thought preseason starts today with the new changes to map, support, items etc... | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Osmoses
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 12 2013 16:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Mannnnnnn Wasabi and I just crushed some Sona's dreams for gold. I feel really awful---we even asked the rest of the team if we could throw for her they said no. + Show Spoiler [because long] + My last game of the season was: Singed-Vi-Heimer-Sivir-Fiddle (me) vs Irelia-Amumu-Singed-Graves-Leona (I picked Fiddle after they had Leona, I kinda asked for my 10 deaths). Heimer thought Ziggs would crush him so he asked for a swap. However the enemy team kept swaping too, which with added reckless Vi dives led to fed Irelia and Singed/Heimer having bastardised itemisation (armour/MR mid-tier components) and made the fights pretty hard for us. During teamfights, it was pretty much hell as Irelia (still as fed as ever) + Leona diving Sivir on top of Amumu's ult, and Ziggs range letting him harass our backline without getting caught tended to force the 3 of our backline to play very defensively, while Vi was being stupidly aggressive and spent his time chasing (dove 1v3 upon respawning several times to die as he thought he could finish one low-health opponent) and Singed killed one of us thrice by flinging Leona or Irelia right onto us. After the nth chase over 2 screens then using his ult to dive even further from us, Vi started flaming Heimer for "doing no damage", "being useless", etc. to which I pointed out that it's pretty hard for him to get anything done when Vi chases so far he can't even reach her before we get counter-initiated upon and his turrets can only protect us from dives and leave Ziggs unscathed. In the end we got some fights where because the enemy team was ahead and trying to get our inhib tower Heimer could set up properly, and after a positioning mistake by Ziggs and me trying my best to juggle cc to prevent Amumu and Leona from engaging we won. Sivir stayed chill the whole game and Heimer was pretty relieved to have been able to get some stuff done by the end, so I was glad for him. Then it turned out Vi got Gold off that game, and was premade with Sivir who at that point claimed the account wasn't his. Why did the flamer have to get away with it because of his buddy? T_T TL;DR maybe I should have gate-kept myself, although my "Plat V" Elo has since been tanked to Gold II-III it seems. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On November 12 2013 19:49 Alaric wrote: + Show Spoiler [because long] + My last game of the season was: Singed-Vi-Heimer-Sivir-Fiddle (me) vs Irelia-Amumu-Singed-Graves-Leona (I picked Fiddle after they had Leona, I kinda asked for my 10 deaths). Heimer thought Ziggs would crush him so he asked for a swap. However the enemy team kept swaping too, which with added reckless Vi dives led to fed Irelia and Singed/Heimer having bastardised itemisation (armour/MR mid-tier components) and made the fights pretty hard for us. During teamfights, it was pretty much hell as Irelia (still as fed as ever) + Leona diving Sivir on top of Amumu's ult, and Ziggs range letting him harass our backline without getting caught tended to force the 3 of our backline to play very defensively, while Vi was being stupidly aggressive and spent his time chasing (dove 1v3 upon respawning several times to die as he thought he could finish one low-health opponent) and Singed killed one of us thrice by flinging Leona or Irelia right onto us. After the nth chase over 2 screens then using his ult to dive even further from us, Vi started flaming Heimer for "doing no damage", "being useless", etc. to which I pointed out that it's pretty hard for him to get anything done when Vi chases so far he can't even reach her before we get counter-initiated upon and his turrets can only protect us from dives and leave Ziggs unscathed. In the end we got some fights where because the enemy team was ahead and trying to get our inhib tower Heimer could set up properly, and after a positioning mistake by Ziggs and me trying my best to juggle cc to prevent Amumu and Leona from engaging we won. Sivir stayed chill the whole game and Heimer was pretty relieved to have been able to get some stuff done by the end, so I was glad for him. Then it turned out Vi got Gold off that game, and was premade with Sivir who at that point claimed the account wasn't his. Why did the flamer have to get away with it because of his buddy? T_T TL;DR maybe I should have gate-kept myself, although my "Plat V" Elo has since been tanked to Gold II-III it seems. That kind of thing is always frustrating. Like, I want the win, but at the same time I'm really upset that such a piece-of-trash human is getting what they want on my team, too. Worst part is when you can see the win coming after a long game, and you're just like, "we don't deserve this. Well, this terrible, toxic duo-queue doesn't." Oh, the first-world inner conflict. My last game, about 30 minutes before Ranked was disabled, was my winning promotion game to Silver! Feels good, although I think I should've been aiming for Gold on my main account over the last month rather than getting Silver on a second. It's just a little refreshing being able to do things over; my real-life-friends account got really close to 30 finally, so I just put my nose to the grindstone for IP, got some runes and champs, then played some Ranked on it. That's two fresh placement series in Season 4, though! Fun times. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: stop playing blind pick? has to be a typo on the double singed, seeing as a guy got gold off the game. touche. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:13 Slusher wrote: has to be a typo on the double singed, seeing as a guy got gold off the game. i was talking to the guy complaining about league of elise | ||
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mr_tolkien
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Sufficiency
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