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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:06 JonnyLaw wrote: Did Kiwi do well on champs that weren't zac? I hope Cruzer does well for Dig. Can the team carry Scarra? I doubt it. It's like people completely forgot about springsplit, when Kiwi was actually good >.> | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On November 12 2013 09:56 Vlanitak wrote: I was writting a big response looking at some of the reasons, but honestly its pretty simple. Teams wont pick up solo Q because they simply arent good enough (when they are they get picked up: Quas, C9 ) I think thi sis a cop out. I refuse to believe that there is no one in solo q who doesn't have both the talent and the motivation to go pro, I think established teams just shy away from taking risks/aren't good enough at scouting talent. You're telling me that there is exactly enough solo q talent for C9 + Quas and that's it, not one more person? Absurd. If there's 5 why can't there be 6, 7, 8, 10, 20? Ridiculously narrowminded and that's why the NA scene will never go anywhere. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I think thi sis a cop out. I refuse to believe that there is no one in solo q who doesn't have both the talent and the motivation to go pro, I think established teams just shy away from taking risks/aren't good enough at scouting talent. You're telling me that there is exactly enough solo q talent for C9 + Quas and that's it, not one more person? Absurd. If there's 5 why can't there be 6, 7, 8, 10, 20? Ridiculously narrowminded and that's why the NA scene will never go anywhere. Was watching some of the amatuer league series going on right now, saw some promise. LOD looking really good, also as far Quas goes, he was picked up due to his skills in amateur league, not solo queue. I'm also surprised players like TrickZ get picked up from CLG, despite being a complete unknown. I've like only seen him once in pro-player streams. When was the last time someone on established NA team picked up solo queue talent? LiNK? | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:27 wei2coolman wrote: Was watching some of the amatuer league series going on right now, saw some promise. LOD looking really good, also as far Quas goes, he was picked up due to his skills in amateur league, not solo queue. I'm also surprised players like TrickZ get picked up from CLG, despite being a complete unknown. I've like only seen him once in pro-player streams. When was the last time someone on established NA team picked up solo queue talent? LiNK? Link played on CLG.Black | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I think thi sis a cop out. I refuse to believe that there is no one in solo q who doesn't have both the talent and the motivation to go pro, I think established teams just shy away from taking risks/aren't good enough at scouting talent. You're telling me that there is exactly enough solo q talent for C9 + Quas and that's it, not one more person? Absurd. If there's 5 why can't there be 6, 7, 8, 10, 20? Ridiculously narrowminded and that's why the NA scene will never go anywhere. Keep in mind that picking up talent from solo queue and amateur challenger teams are 2 different things. Looking at the top players in the Challenger scene there are a bunch of old players on teams like CoL, TBD, Crs A, NiD. Then there is Coast, Velocity and Curse ofc. As a solo queue team that is up and coming I think GGLA is a good example of a 1 trick pony mid, soloqueue or very little competitive experience botlane and jungle. Yazuki being the odd one, as a relatively experienced player, and they are doing okay atm. I think they could be doing better than they are atm. And I did not mean there was just C9 and Quas, those were examples of people who did make it (specially Quas) through solo Q pick. Although C9 was among the Challenger teams of old players rather than solo queue pick ups. I apologize if it came off as narrowminded, but we tried a lot of people for our top lane tryouts and still ended up on someone who already falls in the old player category. The other tryouts simply werent good enough, didnt have the drive or work ethic etc. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:07 wei2coolman wrote: It's like people completely forgot about springsplit, when Kiwi was actually good >.> Then his major champions got hit with the nerf-bat (things like Singed, Kayle, and Elise), and he failed to adapt to new champions. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:43 Lord Tolkien wrote: Then his major champions got hit with the nerf-bat (things like Singed, Kayle, and Elise), and he failed to adapt to new champions. Yup, sad story for a lot of NA pros, can't seem to adapt to champion pool changes. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol currently it's 5 rivens vs 5 gragases | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:46 wei2coolman wrote: Yup, sad story for a lot of NA pros, can't seem to adapt to champion pool changes. It's like Dade. The cycle of nerfs and buffs continues. On November 12 2013 10:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I think thi sis a cop out. I refuse to believe that there is no one in solo q who doesn't have both the talent and the motivation to go pro, I think established teams just shy away from taking risks/aren't good enough at scouting talent. You're telling me that there is exactly enough solo q talent for C9 + Quas and that's it, not one more person? Absurd. If there's 5 why can't there be 6, 7, 8, 10, 20? Ridiculously narrowminded and that's why the NA scene will never go anywhere. If they're good enough with the motivation to go pro, they'll largely be in the amateur/semi-pro scene. Watch NACL (I feel so alone commenting on the TL threads D: ); there's talent, but it needs development. Basically, Riot needs to help set up and expand the amateur/semi-pro scene, so things like NACL or the upcoming Beverage Company Challenger Circuit should help in that department. That, or do what Crs does and create an amateur farmer team (like former Dig Academy, before overwhelming toxicity). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:48 Lord Tolkien wrote: It's like Dade. The cycle of nerfs and buffs continues. I don't think Dade will ever be relevant again, he was just broken. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:46 phyvo wrote: IDK what seuss is doing with his stream thread atm but I felt like plugging it since right now he's streaming All for One mode on the pbe. + Show Spoiler + http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol currently it's 5 rivens vs 5 gragases Teamfighting in vent/skype/ts will be hilarious in this game mode. Kill the fucking gragas. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:53 UniversalSnip wrote: I can't believe the game is turning upside down in a few hours (presumably) and you guys are talking about cruzer. No patch notes; it's just a ranked (soft) reset; inappropriate usage of semicolons; deal with it. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:53 UniversalSnip wrote: I can't believe the game is turning upside down in a few hours (presumably) and you guys are talking about cruzer. I mean we already kinda covered previews + pbe, gotta play it to really care more, I've been locked into my division for a week just chillin waiting for the reset, I'm happy it's finally here but until it's live the game has been kinda lame duck for me. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote: No patch notes; it's just a ranked (soft) reset; inappropriate usage of semicolons; deal with it. oh real. reading the announcement more carefully When the clock strikes midnight, turning November 11 to November 12, ranked queues will come down and we'll start doling out rewards. You can expect direct reward deposits in your account by the end of next week. Ranked queues will be down for about twelve hours and will come back online for the duration of preseason with some upgrades in tow that we'll be discussing soon. it sounds like the game servers won't be going down, only the ranked queue, and the changes are probably stuff everybody will zz at like enabling demotions. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 12 2013 09:06 Tula wrote: The garen who spammed emotes instead of helping Alex finish the game is one of the most idiotic trolls I have ever seen. He thinks he's Trick2G and doing that stupid "maximum disrespect" nonsense. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:15 Vlanitak wrote: Just as I praise the GGLA team it seems GGLA is playing with non of them in NACL lol... so much for NA development ;_; They've apparently swapped teams/sponsors. Only otter left. Ahue. They broke up most fabulous bot lane tho: no more Otter+Nydus. :< | ||
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