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yawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada200 Posts
October 09 2013 19:19 GMT
#2401
On October 10 2013 04:15 Ghost-z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 03:25 Fusilero wrote:
On October 10 2013 03:23 Ghost-z wrote:
Does anyone ever run 21 points in Utility on anything but supports? For ranked play Offense/Defense seems universally better. 2/3rds of the time I even run 1/13/16 on Supports. I really would like to play around with 21 utility more often. What champions are best suited for 21 utility or is it optimal on any of them?

I know there's a certain type of vladimir that ran 21 utility that reapered created.
Here's an example of it http://www.probuilds.net/guide/EUW/1092461822/20321774
It pretty much focuses on the speed and spell vamp from it to become king afk split push bitch vlad

I've tried similar builds to this on Kennen since he can take full advantage of pickpocket, cdr, 3%ms, LS/Vamp. But that leaves him so squishy without 9 defense and he can easily take advantage of 21 offense.

21/9/0 vs 9/0/21 with top lane Kennen (9/9/12 feels very lackluster, i've tired)

21/9/0 lets me bully around most melees with ease especially since I like to start 15 AD runes against many melee tops.

9/0/21 would let me kite and poke better against harder lanes that I would take scaling AP runes but also lets me kite and chase opponents i want to bully with 15 AD runes. But i'm also losing out on 9 defense that I would want in a harder lane matchup.

Kennen can utilize both 21 Offense and 21 Utility very well and is flexible on runes depending on lane opponent. I tend to favor 21 Offense but am I just tunneling into cookie-cutter builds? Is 21 Utility just going to get out scaled by 21 Offense?


try 30 offense kennen with a couple lifesteal quints and hybrid pen marks
aka xusic
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 19:32:01
October 09 2013 19:31 GMT
#2402
Is EUW still fucked?

I can't seem to log on.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#2403
On October 10 2013 04:31 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Is EUW still fucked?

I can't seem to log on.


I believe what you asked would be considered a tautology.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 09 2013 19:42 GMT
#2404
damn Im so excited for jinx after seeing the spotlight and mv!

Can't wait for Deman to scream MEGA SUPER DEATH ROCKET during a cast.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 19:45:15
October 09 2013 19:44 GMT
#2405
On October 10 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
damn Im so excited for jinx after seeing the spotlight and mv!

Can't wait for Deman to scream MEGA SUPER DEATH ROCKET during a cast.

Inb4 jinx ends up released at sivir tier.
I would just love it if after all the hype she ends up being the worst ADC and is played as much as graves (RIP)
Glorious SEA doto
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#2406
On October 10 2013 04:44 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
damn Im so excited for jinx after seeing the spotlight and mv!

Can't wait for Deman to scream MEGA SUPER DEATH ROCKET during a cast.

Inb4 jinx ends up released at sivir tier.
I would just love it if after all the hype she ends up being the worst ADC and is played as much as graves (RIP)

can't really see her not being played since she has mobility and insane auto attack range.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 09 2013 19:47 GMT
#2407
The problem with the Olaf rework is that they made it so Auto-Attack focused. He can't autoattack without using ULT+Summoner in teamfights, so thats kind of a joke.

They should have made him Axe-Centric and gotten rid of the stupid amount of steroids, and let him spam axes all day.
Freeeeeeedom
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 09 2013 19:48 GMT
#2408
I think her E is the most broken skill of her kit xD
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 09 2013 19:48 GMT
#2409
melee draven.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 09 2013 19:49 GMT
#2410
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 09 2013 19:51 GMT
#2411
Fishbones is Aoe and can crit AOE? seems like IE+Shiv would be pretty sweet.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#2412
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).

Dem hips doe

Speaking of Cass, I'd be really interested to see a Noxus/Demacia patch like Freljord got. Nothing really needs to change (a lot of it is fine and interesting, like Galio/Poppy and Darius/Draven), but they left some stories open with the expectation that once their lore department got some traction we'd see more stuff. I loved the Jinx trailer (as you're aware lul), but lore > art/animation any day of the week.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 19:55:34
October 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#2413
On October 10 2013 04:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).

Dem hips doe

Speaking of Cass, I'd be really interested to see a Noxus/Demacia patch like Freljord got. Nothing really needs to change (a lot of it is fine and interesting, like Galio/Poppy and Darius/Draven), but they left some stories open with the expectation that once their lore department got some traction we'd see more stuff. I loved the Jinx trailer (as you're aware lul), but lore > art/animation any day of the week.

Isn't there something happening in shurima desert like the frejilord patch involving cassio and sivir.
I assume it's called operation "Make people give a shit about cassio and sivir"
Glorious SEA doto
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 19:56:14
October 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#2414
Demacia/Noxus Showmatch pls. The end of the JoJ left that plotline entirely open.

Make it happen Riot. On Dominion even.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#2415
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).


Being a gorgon kinda ruins her waifu appeal though.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#2416
On October 10 2013 04:57 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).


Being a gorgon kinda ruins her waifu appeal though.

The being a soul sucking fox that kills you hasn't stopped the ahri train, people just need to be more open.
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#2417
On October 10 2013 04:57 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).


Being a gorgon kinda ruins her waifu appeal though.

waaat? Monstergirls <3
It's your boy Guzma!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#2418
On October 10 2013 04:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:57 red_ wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).


Being a gorgon kinda ruins her waifu appeal though.

The being a soul sucking fox that kills you hasn't stopped the ahri train, people just need to be more open.

It's the legs, definitely the legs
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#2419
On October 10 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Demacia/Noxus Showmatch pls. The end of the JoJ left that plotline entirely open.

Make it happen Riot. On Dominion even.

If this was to happen I'm curious would people prefer community figures (So trick2g, guardsmanbob, neo pls), pros or a mixture if they were to ever do another lore match.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 20:06:57
October 09 2013 20:06 GMT
#2420
On October 10 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Demacia/Noxus Showmatch pls. The end of the JoJ left that plotline entirely open.

Make it happen Riot. On Dominion even.

Na, Kalamanda was pretty well wrapped-up from that point of view. "Some people at the League and the JoJ colluded to try and create a conflict so that Kalamanda (and, conveniently, its recently discovered nexus) would be put under the Institute's authority" with it being implied that albeit guilty, those caught were set up by their "partners" (amongst which are Black Rose members and Swain) who manipulated them with such an intent in mind from the start, so as to provide closure, scapegoats, and protect themselves from investigation.
So officially Nexus and Demacia were all "Oh, 0K, some people made fools of us all but we caught them, it's sad that our battle means the Institute will still protect Kalamanda in case we're in bad faith, but we understand it and we'll drop our different for the good of all".

On October 10 2013 04:57 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote:
On October 10 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cass has problems, though her damage potential is through the roof (as always).

It was in response to people calling dibs on waifus. T_T Obviously Cass is underwhelming with all the rampant stuff going on, but her archetype as a temptress/seductress is similar to Ahri without the foxgirl stuff and novelty appeal to people. I hesitated about making a joke regarding how she's way harder to play than Ahri though.

I actually prefer Cass' take on that theme because it's more roundabout and there's that irony/fake bitterness (from Cass herself) about it, while Ahri's is really straightforward (and in conflict with her lore saying that she basically joined the League to become human without having to drain people's essence [after seducing them so they'd be vulnerable] anymore).


Being a gorgon kinda ruins her waifu appeal though.

Siren skin yo. One of the few I own.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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