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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 27 2013 14:20 GMT
#5801
On September 27 2013 23:02 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:57 obesechicken13 wrote:
I remember a video where Faker or someone was playing fizz and they abused his range over another melee opponent mid (gragas?) to get free autos. It was like the most broken thing ever to have that little latency you can get away with free autos on 50 range.

faker fizz vs yahoodotcom kassadin i think. it's on youtube

+ Show Spoiler +


I realize this guy is ranked #5 in NA, but wtf so bad. Trading autos level 1 with a Fizz who took W? Flashing away and then immediately walking back into range of Fizz who still has his flash?
I am the Town Medic.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 14:20 GMT
#5802
On September 27 2013 23:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 23:04 Requizen wrote:
Well that's also because I'm horrible lol


It's a matchup I would like to experience again.

Vik and Liss get strong at similar points in the game, but I think Liss may be able to outpush Viktor at ~4 or 5 because her passive makes mana sustain a bit better, while Vik can go through a lot of mana early if he's trying to resist a hard pusher.

Not really sure to be honest.

You need to find a Diamond Viktor player then

but that's you lol
It's your boy Guzma!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 14:29:52
September 27 2013 14:25 GMT
#5803
Idk what this Garena game is for, but I think it's gonna set a record. 70 minutes and no signs of stopping

On September 27 2013 22:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:44 jaybrundage wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:40 oneofthem wrote:
lissandra is pretty good utility wise but she's not op in any capacity. kind of like orianna but more mobile


Liss honestly feels like Annie but with more mobility, more utility, and slightly less burst.

They play somewhat similar (I hit 6, I'm looking to all in you), and zipping around with her E on low cooldown is great.

Soniv who would you say in your experience counters Liss?


Haven't found a distinct counter yet because people just keep face picking Ahri into Liss.

I feel like Kass could be a rough matchup if I don't get ahead early. And even then, it's Kass.

The matchups I find more awkward (not really counters) are the more standard mages that farm from distance and outrange me. Liss is great against assassins and gap closers, but if she always has to use E to close the distance, it's quite a bit of damage that she's losing.

Lux was a pretty rough matchup. Brand was fine, although the Brand player was really bad. Morgana is annoying, as usual.

Haven't encountered too much variety though.

I hate Kassadin as Liss. It's a matchup that snowballs VERY hard one way the other. Lissandra bullies him so hard pre-6, like much harder than most can bully Kass pre-6 so if he doesn't get good help from the jungler you should be far enough ahead to keep him shoved and shut down his roam. I go Mercs+Abyssal vs him. I think that's why Kass is so good in low elo, NO ONE BUYS TENACITY. Seriously, wtf just buy mercs 15 mpen isn't that huge compared to risking losing an advantage to Kass
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 14:32:22
September 27 2013 14:26 GMT
#5804
HKA had 4 barons lol

5 now, still scared to engage
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 27 2013 14:31 GMT
#5805
On September 27 2013 19:45 Amarok wrote:
FFS. I'm so sick of Worlds being spoilered by the LoL homescreen. Happened in the quarters and now the semis. Spoiler option riot pls.


Those games were like 5 days ago I think this one is on you man.
@miicah88
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#5806
On September 27 2013 23:25 MattBarry wrote:
Idk what this Garena game is for, but I think it's gonna set a record. 70 minutes and no signs of stopping

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:44 jaybrundage wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:40 oneofthem wrote:
lissandra is pretty good utility wise but she's not op in any capacity. kind of like orianna but more mobile


Liss honestly feels like Annie but with more mobility, more utility, and slightly less burst.

They play somewhat similar (I hit 6, I'm looking to all in you), and zipping around with her E on low cooldown is great.

Soniv who would you say in your experience counters Liss?


Haven't found a distinct counter yet because people just keep face picking Ahri into Liss.

I feel like Kass could be a rough matchup if I don't get ahead early. And even then, it's Kass.

The matchups I find more awkward (not really counters) are the more standard mages that farm from distance and outrange me. Liss is great against assassins and gap closers, but if she always has to use E to close the distance, it's quite a bit of damage that she's losing.

Lux was a pretty rough matchup. Brand was fine, although the Brand player was really bad. Morgana is annoying, as usual.

Haven't encountered too much variety though.

I hate Kassadin as Liss. It's a matchup that snowballs VERY hard one way the other. Lissandra bullies him so hard pre-6, like much harder than most can bully Kass pre-6 so if he doesn't get good help from the jungler you should be far enough ahead to keep him shoved and shut down his roam. I go Mercs+Abyssal vs him. I think that's why Kass is so good in low elo, NO ONE BUYS TENACITY. Seriously, wtf just buy mercs 15 mpen isn't that huge compared to risking losing an advantage to Kass


That's how I imagine the matchup is. Mercs/abyssal is pretty necessary vs any of the super snowbally assassin mages (kass/LB/fizz).
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#5807
So many GAs, I feel like I'm watching Dota lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#5808
Ummm....Wow. That HKA game.

I have to leave for school but what?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 27 2013 14:33 GMT
#5809
On September 27 2013 22:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
OH-kay her model isn't the best but this VO and animations are top-notch. The jokez are so good (shark rocket "ventriloquism" is so fking good). Also, WHERE IS THAT DANCE FROM (not the Mafia skin one... that's just the Charleston.

Also... RECALL ANIMATION WOOOOO


@miicah88
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 14:35:37
September 27 2013 14:34 GMT
#5810
On September 27 2013 23:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 23:25 MattBarry wrote:
Idk what this Garena game is for, but I think it's gonna set a record. 70 minutes and no signs of stopping

On September 27 2013 22:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:44 jaybrundage wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:40 oneofthem wrote:
lissandra is pretty good utility wise but she's not op in any capacity. kind of like orianna but more mobile


Liss honestly feels like Annie but with more mobility, more utility, and slightly less burst.

They play somewhat similar (I hit 6, I'm looking to all in you), and zipping around with her E on low cooldown is great.

Soniv who would you say in your experience counters Liss?


Haven't found a distinct counter yet because people just keep face picking Ahri into Liss.

I feel like Kass could be a rough matchup if I don't get ahead early. And even then, it's Kass.

The matchups I find more awkward (not really counters) are the more standard mages that farm from distance and outrange me. Liss is great against assassins and gap closers, but if she always has to use E to close the distance, it's quite a bit of damage that she's losing.

Lux was a pretty rough matchup. Brand was fine, although the Brand player was really bad. Morgana is annoying, as usual.

Haven't encountered too much variety though.

I hate Kassadin as Liss. It's a matchup that snowballs VERY hard one way the other. Lissandra bullies him so hard pre-6, like much harder than most can bully Kass pre-6 so if he doesn't get good help from the jungler you should be far enough ahead to keep him shoved and shut down his roam. I go Mercs+Abyssal vs him. I think that's why Kass is so good in low elo, NO ONE BUYS TENACITY. Seriously, wtf just buy mercs 15 mpen isn't that huge compared to risking losing an advantage to Kass


That's how I imagine the matchup is. Mercs/abyssal is pretty necessary vs any of the super snowbally assassin mages (kass/LB/fizz).

Abyssal is a pretty solid pick up as Liss if you're vs. an AP lane and you've got like an AP top or Elise jungle. It's so smart to buy Abyssal when you have an Elise jungle.

Why the hell would lane Elise buy Ancient golem. For the tenacity I guess?
Platinum Support GOD
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 27 2013 14:36 GMT
#5811
On September 27 2013 23:32 Amui wrote:
Ummm....Wow. That HKA game.

I have to leave for school but what?

this game is awful

damn you dan HH for linking it
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 14:38 GMT
#5812
84 minutes in and Fiddle has mobos and ruby ss. This is truly, truly depression
Platinum Support GOD
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
September 27 2013 14:39 GMT
#5813
It's an endurance game, who needs to go to the bathroom first loses
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 27 2013 14:40 GMT
#5814
Unfortunately I have to finish watching this game now I've started D:
@miicah88
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 14:40 GMT
#5815
This is the sort of game that is annoying and draining to win and incredibly frustrating to lose. It's a no-win scenario
Platinum Support GOD
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 14:42 GMT
#5816
How is this Jax not just annihilating their entire team? That fucking build lol
It's your boy Guzma!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 14:43 GMT
#5817
I'm rooting for a 100 minuter
Platinum Support GOD
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 27 2013 14:44 GMT
#5818
World Record pls
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
September 27 2013 14:44 GMT
#5819
Comps / builds? Can't watch :D
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
September 27 2013 14:45 GMT
#5820
Finally. The madness ends.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
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