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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:13 Arisen wrote: I watched this video by athene today because i saw it on the frontpage of my youtube where he talks about going from bronze to diamond and he reccomends playing 1 character (preferably mid) that is very good at carrying teamfights lategame and play a gp10 setup and farm very well. I always took a systems approach of being ok at a few different heroes in each lane and trying to contribute. I have been working on leveling a smurf when i'm frustrated with solo que. So, I was curious to see how good I could do with this strategy and if it is more effective than my strategy. What are some champs that fulfill the type of champ he is describing besides ryze? I'm going to try it out, but I'm not the biggest ryze fan. Cassiopeia, Karthus, Anivia Ahri and Xerath can also carry very hard but are burstier | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
randomly decided to play her a week ago and just rofl stomp with her. (8-2 since I started playing her). Her level 2 burst is so strong. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:38 Shotcoder wrote: Sivir why you so fun yet so underplayed? randomly decided to play her a week ago and just rofl stomp with her. (8-2 since I started playing her). Her level 2 burst is so strong. Because her range is god awful, lacks a real escape, and lacks any form of cc. I love her, but she's bad. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Sivir was the first ADC that I've ever played, and when CptJack played her during the MIG Blaze days I thought she was amazing. Nowadays she's completely outclassed. edit: Fizz has an amazing all in. I think his might be level 3 though. I'm not 100% certain. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I was just wondering, who has like, the strongest level 1-2 all in? Champs like Pantheon or Renek (if offensive) seem to have high kill potential with flash + stun/ignite engages. Question based around top/mid. Gangplank! | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I was just wondering, who has like, the strongest level 1-2 all in? Champs like Pantheon or Renek (if offensive) seem to have high kill potential with flash + stun/ignite engages. Question based around top/mid. Just from my champion pool: Best lvl 2: Tryndamere. He hurts real bad with a full rage bar at 2, and it's hard to get away from (ghost, ignite, and spin) Best lvl 1: Udyr. Tiger does stupid damage lvl 1 and can really force a guy to have to base from the damage he took, waste a summoner, or possibly die if he doesnt have some sort of escape. Honorable mention: Jayce. If he hits that first accelerated 1 and form switches, he does a ton of damage. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:44 RagequitBM wrote: Is "JaeYoong" a professional player? I just randomly found his stream, and it's super entertaining. Looks like hes in a team house too. Sivir was the first ADC that I've ever played, and when CptJack played her during the MIG Blaze days I thought she was amazing. Nowadays she's completely outclassed. edit: Fizz has an amazing all in. I think his might be level 3 though. I'm not 100% certain. Malaysian player, used to be with Kuala Lumpur Hunters, currently in Bangkok Titans. Regularly plays on TW servers. Pretty good AD, kinda tunnel vision, likes to take Heal (props for that). | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:28 sob3k wrote: Cassiopeia, Karthus, Anivia Ahri and Xerath can also carry very hard but are burstier Ahri, Xerath, Karthus, ori, zed, are among the safest soloq picks.Rarely bad or banned. Anivia is so-so, fares somewhat poorly against a lot of FOTM junglers and mids. You can make her work, but probably not worth the effort. Cass I'm mixed on. On one hand, she abuses skill discrepancies insanely hard. On the other she also happens to be an inviting target to gank, and can get outplayed quite badly by more mobile junglers/mids. Don't play a GP10 on a laner with farm priority though. You get access to so much farm already, the relative value of GP10's drops so much. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I was just wondering, who has like, the strongest level 1-2 all in? Champs like Pantheon or Renek (if offensive) seem to have high kill potential with flash + stun/ignite engages. Question based around top/mid. Fizz with the 30/0/0 ignite barrier red pot setup beats most people. Riven&Lee are also really strong. Level 1 I'd probably have to go with darius. Passive is far too strong to duel down at that level. Level 2 I think the crown goes to one of fizz riven or panth. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Ask Roffles' team about that | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:42 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Because her range is god awful, lacks a real escape, and lacks any form of cc. I love her, but she's bad. She is a bursty aoe adc with team utility. Her spellshield along with her ulti is quite defensive/escapy enough. She's definitely not bad, though I wouldn't name her top-tier due to aforementioned range issues. She's a niche carry. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
That's pretty heavy for an ADC | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On August 12 2013 18:11 sob3k wrote: He asked who has the strongest level 1-2 allin. Not "if the other laner manfights you to the death at level 2 who is the best". Pretty hard to tell who you are talking to... | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 12 2013 17:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I was just wondering, who has like, the strongest level 1-2 all in? Champs like Pantheon or Renek (if offensive) seem to have high kill potential with flash + stun/ignite engages. Question based around top/mid. Riven yo. I get FB in the majority of my games. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On August 12 2013 18:10 Osmoses wrote: She is a bursty aoe adc with team utility. Her spellshield along with her ulti is quite defensive/escapy enough. She's definitely not bad, though I wouldn't name her top-tier due to aforementioned range issues. She's a niche carry. Spell shield's cd is too long to be good at low levels because pretty much every other ability in the game has a shorter level 1 cd. Her aoe can be hugely diminished as long as your opponent stands behind creeps, forcing it to hit multiple targets. Yes, if you take somebody by themselves at levels 1/2 w/ both hits it does crazy damage. But they're playing terribly if they give sivir that opportunity. She lacks the tools required to be a real ADC compared to the rest of the pool. Can she win? Of course, spell shield, despite its cd, crushes noobs. But almost every ad has a noob crushing ability. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 12 2013 18:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Spell shield's cd is too long to be good at low levels because pretty much every other ability in the game has a shorter level 1 cd. Her aoe can be hugely diminished as long as your opponent stands behind creeps, forcing it to hit multiple targets. Yes, if you take somebody by themselves at levels 1/2 w/ both hits it does crazy damage. But they're playing terribly if they give sivir that opportunity. She lacks the tools required to be a real ADC compared to the rest of the pool. Can she win? Of course, spell shield, despite its cd, crushes noobs. But almost every ad has a noob crushing ability. Indeed; there just really isn't that much reason to pick Sivir over basically any other ADC. Waiting for return of toggle Ricochet. Riot pls. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 12 2013 18:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Spell shield's cd is too long to be good at low levels because pretty much every other ability in the game has a shorter level 1 cd. Her aoe can be hugely diminished as long as your opponent stands behind creeps, forcing it to hit multiple targets. Yes, if you take somebody by themselves at levels 1/2 w/ both hits it does crazy damage. But they're playing terribly if they give sivir that opportunity. She lacks the tools required to be a real ADC compared to the rest of the pool. Can she win? Of course, spell shield, despite its cd, crushes noobs. But almost every ad has a noob crushing ability. You make very general statements, but they apply to all the other adcs as well. You're not gonna stick your chin out unless you have your cooldowns. For example, I main Tristana, and her rocket jump happes to have the same cd as spellshield. Anyway, how you apply Sivir in lane is no different from other adcs, it depends on the other three people in the lane. Her main issue in my opinion is that her short range and limited mobility makes it difficult to dish significant damage in teamfights, though her ulti brings more utility to the rest of the team than any other adc. | ||
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