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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2013 04:48 GMT
#3401
On July 21 2013 12:56 Requizen wrote:
Topdyr is still good tho. The sustain top meta wasn't terribly exciting, but it made some champs really damn good.

He's good on top now; not because of his sustain though. His tiger form just so strong right now.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 21 2013 04:49 GMT
#3402
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2013 04:53 GMT
#3403
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

who lane swaps in solo queue?
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 21 2013 04:53 GMT
#3404
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

Phoenix would conceivably be better 1v2 because he can waveclear pretty fast and cheap. Not as good at most 1v2, but better than Tiger.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2013 04:55 GMT
#3405
On July 21 2013 13:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

Phoenix would conceivably be better 1v2 because he can waveclear pretty fast and cheap. Not as good at most 1v2, but better than Tiger.

No it wouldn't; He wouldn't have any chance to even walk up to wave clear. The only thing Udyr can do is lose the tower; and freeze out the lane, and farm back into beast mode.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 21 2013 04:57 GMT
#3406
That's why I said "better than Tiger" not "better than Jayce" or whatever.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#3407
On July 21 2013 13:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

who lane swaps in solo queue?


hence why i said pubstomp

solo q = pubstomp
TranslatorBaa!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 21 2013 05:01 GMT
#3408
If the enemy top is melee, me and my duo call a switch and run top and ignore our top. We're pretty confident we can stomp the enemy top harder than the enemy bot lane can stomp ours, and the side who initiates the lane switch tends to have an advantage anyways.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 05:21:59
July 21 2013 05:21 GMT
#3409
nvm
Bronze player stuck in platinum
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 21 2013 05:24 GMT
#3410
On July 21 2013 13:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

who lane swaps in solo queue?

I've seen it before. It's terrible. No one really knows what to do, the 2v1 lane initiatior talks about how good they are because they have a giant CS lead, junglers die everywhere, and it's messy.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 05:26:12
July 21 2013 05:25 GMT
#3411
So you could say my MMR is getting a little out of hand.
:|
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Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 21 2013 05:28 GMT
#3412
ur so good
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 21 2013 05:30 GMT
#3413
On July 21 2013 14:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
So you could say my MMR is getting a little out of hand.
:|
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[image loading]

And yet, Gold III
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 21 2013 05:31 GMT
#3414
On July 21 2013 14:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 14:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
So you could say my MMR is getting a little out of hand.
:|
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And yet, Gold III

IM WORKING ON IT
lol
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 21 2013 05:32 GMT
#3415
On July 21 2013 14:24 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

who lane swaps in solo queue?

I've seen it before. It's terrible. No one really knows what to do, the 2v1 lane initiatior talks about how good they are because they have a giant CS lead, junglers die everywhere, and it's messy.

Oh god 2v1s make me cry in low elo, I once had to support an MF in a 2v1 where after I bullied elise out and started to push into the turret (MF started raging when I glitter lanced the wave to push it) she proceeded to without warning tower dive elise which results in a prompt cocoon > Q > W > spider Q under the turret which feeds elise fb. Then volibear chews on my sorry yordle ass. Then the match becomes a painful series of MF face tanking elise harass and the minion wave and volibear coming top to kill us for about 15 minutes.
Glorious SEA doto
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 21 2013 05:33 GMT
#3416
My mentality has gotten a lot better now I think. A few days ago I was on here complaining about how my team mates are dragging me down. Now I realize that I need to drag them up! I have been winning a TON more now, so thanks guys for helping me out with that. My MMR is still low, I'm only getting +5-8 lp per win, but It'll go up I'm sure.

You guys are awesome <3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2013 05:35 GMT
#3417
On July 21 2013 14:31 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 14:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 21 2013 14:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
So you could say my MMR is getting a little out of hand.
:|
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And yet, Gold III

IM WORKING ON IT
lol

Are you choking on your series?
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 05:38:54
July 21 2013 05:36 GMT
#3418
Btw meanwhile in Australia, lulu mid with two long swords.
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgamesoceania
Sotl rush lulu mid, Oceanic Lol OP.
Glorious SEA doto
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 21 2013 05:41 GMT
#3419
swag of the elder lizard
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 21 2013 05:43 GMT
#3420
So laning panth vs warwick.....couldn't do shit to him, I roamed and got several kills but in the end bot and mid lost anyway and we got rolled and I couldnt do anything. Seems like you get great ganks or you just lose lane hard automatically?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
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